Juan Carranco field goal record watch

[dayton]

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[quote author=liltex link=topic=104824.msg1303214#msg1303214 date=1350523500]
The Ducks(oregon)is hot on the trail I'm told as is the Utes.Think he's leaning to UT and they need him bad 8)
[/quote]That's pretty good if they're on him like that. Big D1 programs don't offer a lot of scholarships to kickers, they usually invite them and a couple other kickers to fall camp and whoever wins the job they put on scholarship which is why you see a lot a transfer kickers. Best kicker in the state last year was a kid from Argyle and he doesn't even have any offers yet. Just hope Crosby's little Juan end up as good as Dayton's.
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good post.... kickers get treated a lot differently than other top prospects.
[/quote] Why is that?
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good question, not like they're a dime a dozen....

[bronco pride]

They get paid well in the nfl. A good kicker can change your offensive approach in a game alot. It nice to know if you get inside the 30your almost always coming away with points. Png can tell you how important juan is.

[COOG8BRONCO]

[quote name="octfeb" post="1303530" timestamp="1350578973"]
[quote author=dayton link=topic=104824.msg1303521#msg1303521 date=1350578044]
[quote author=COOG8BRONCO link=topic=104824.msg1303515#msg1303515 date=1350577620]
[quote author=liltex link=topic=104824.msg1303214#msg1303214 date=1350523500]
The Ducks(oregon)is hot on the trail I'm told as is the Utes.Think he's leaning to UT and they need him bad 8)
[/quote]That's pretty good if they're on him like that. Big D1 programs don't offer a lot of scholarships to kickers, they usually invite them and a couple other kickers to fall camp and whoever wins the job they put on scholarship which is why you see a lot a transfer kickers. Best kicker in the state last year was a kid from Argyle and he doesn't even have any offers yet. Just hope Crosby's little Juan end up as good as Dayton's.
[/quote]

good post.... kickers get treated a lot differently than other top prospects.
[/quote] Why is that?
[/quote]Because there are too many variables that go into kicking. Do you take the kid that was super accurate but doesn't have the strongest leg, or the kid that can stroke it from 60 but has a little lower connect percentage. In Texas we kick off the ground but not all states do, is the kid going to be able to transition? Does he play in the south where he's kicking a warmer, softer ball that carries or the north where he's kicking a rock half the season? Is he kicking of a natural surface or pristine field turf? What's his trajectory like, can he kick over 6'6" guys with their arms outstretched? Probably the most important is if he can kick under pressure? When they invite you to fall camp you go through a long competition, basically you are out there daily in front of over 100 players, coaches and media trying to earn your keep. I went to a school that was known for its kickers, the most notable being Adam Vinitieri, and believe it or not he wasn't even offered a scholarship. These questions are even more pertinent now due to the new NCAA scholarship rules. When I went to college scholarships were basically a one year renewable contract, meaning you did/didn't sign your scholarship every year. Now they went back to being able to offer 4 year scholarships which means if you get a kicker you thought was good in high school but gets on campus and can't cut it your stuck with him for 4 years, making them even more leery. This happens often with position players too but they usually earn their keep on special teams and letter that way. The determining factor for most schools now isn't how well you do on Friday nights, but how well you do in the summer on the camp circuit.

[dayton]

[quote name="COOG8BRONCO" post="1303630" timestamp="1350586160"]
[quote author=octfeb link=topic=104824.msg1303530#msg1303530 date=1350578973]
[quote author=dayton link=topic=104824.msg1303521#msg1303521 date=1350578044]
[quote author=COOG8BRONCO link=topic=104824.msg1303515#msg1303515 date=1350577620]
[quote author=liltex link=topic=104824.msg1303214#msg1303214 date=1350523500]
The Ducks(oregon)is hot on the trail I'm told as is the Utes.Think he's leaning to UT and they need him bad 8)
[/quote]That's pretty good if they're on him like that. Big D1 programs don't offer a lot of scholarships to kickers, they usually invite them and a couple other kickers to fall camp and whoever wins the job they put on scholarship which is why you see a lot a transfer kickers. Best kicker in the state last year was a kid from Argyle and he doesn't even have any offers yet. Just hope Crosby's little Juan end up as good as Dayton's.
[/quote]

good post.... kickers get treated a lot differently than other top prospects.
[/quote] Why is that?
[/quote]Because there are too many variables that go into kicking. Do you take the kid that was super accurate but doesn't have the strongest leg, or the kid that can stroke it from 60 but has a little lower connect percentage. In Texas we kick off the ground but not all states do, is the kid going to be able to transistion? Does he play in the south where he's kicking a warmer, softer ball that carries or the north where he's kicking a rock half the season? Is he kicking of a natural surface or pristine field turf? What's his trajectory like, can he kick over 6'6" guys with their arms outstretched? Probably the most important is if he can kick under pressure? When they invite you to fall camp you go through a long competition, basically you are out there daily in front of over 100 players, coaches and media trying to earn your keep. I went to a school that was know for its kickers, the most notable being Adam Vinitieri, and believe it or not he wasn't even offered a scholarship. These questions are even more pertinent now due to the new NCAA scholarship rules. When I went to college scholarships were basically a one year renewable contract, meaning you did/didn't sign your scholarship every year. Now they went back to being able to offer 4 year scholarships which means if you get a kicker you thought was good in high school but gets on campus and can't cut it your stuck with him for 4 years, making them even more leery. This happens often with position players too but they usually earn their keep on special teams and letter that way.[b] The determining factor for most schools now isn't how well you do on Friday nights, but how well you do in the summer on the camp circuit.[/b]
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good point. To my knowledge, Juan has competed well at some good camps.... Just a wait and see now I guess.

[bronco pride]

I bet bowden at florida state would have loved a good kicker back in the day.

[liltex]

Most importantly Juan is a great student w/a good head in a family of great kickers.He will kick his way to a college education and stay the coarse w/o bad publicity for himself or whatever team he wears the uniform for. ;)