ram0524 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name="dogbite" post="1318733" timestamp="1351972735"]Some of those running backs might have to move over to defense at linebacker to fill in for the loss of stampley and wood![/quote]Barton will be a linebacker next year, as well as Stewart
football04 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 Barton could wind up in alot of places CB, LB or RB. Krautz will probably move to corner. Even though we will lose alot of special players, there is alot of tallent waiting for they're shot. We are going to reload next year, not rebuild.
thedogs1987 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 Barton looks so good running. He's so fast!!! What a backfield. Contreras, Dial and Hopkins, too.Love what the Dogs have.....and will have. 8)Dogs Defense is at another level this year. Don't know if I have ever seen a more COMPLETE Nederland defense. Wow! These guys will be remembered for a long time.
pirate68 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name="thedogs1987" post="1318764" timestamp="1351974515"]Barton looks so good running. He's so fast!!! What a backfield. Contreras, Dial and Hopkins, too.Love what the Dogs have.....and will have. 8)Dogs Defense is at another level this year. Don't know if I have ever seen a more COMPLETE Nederland defense. Wow! These guys will be remembered for a long time.[/quote]Nederland has played great defense all year. It seems like so many coaches put all there playmakers on the offensive side of the ball now that it's rare to see a team play good defense anymore. I for one enjoy watching Nederland and vidor still play solid defense.
thedogs1987 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 Agreed pirate 68...Mathews teaches Vidor solid D, as well.Love that the QB plays LB in Vidor. Awesome!I do believe put the best players on the field.
thedogs1987 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name="ram0524" post="1318735" timestamp="1351973075"][quote author=dogbite link=topic=105606.msg1318733#msg1318733 date=1351972735]Some of those running backs might have to move over to defense at linebacker to fill in for the loss of stampley and wood![/quote]Barton will be a linebacker next year, as well as Stewart[/quote]As for Linebackers....Mayfieldplus JV players moving up, several quick, good size, strong players who could fill in at LB I would see Tinsley would move into the LB group. Tinsley is strong, fast, fast, nice size. (can't even count how many players he has cut across from opposite side of field and brought down from behind)Stewart, great size, hands, quickness, as well.Future is bright 8) 8)There will never be another Stampley and Wood at linebacker. What a duo!!!! All around defense is one of the Nederland's ALL-TIME greats!!!
DogsDLine Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 I have heard that the back up offense did good but how did the second string defense do?Specifically players who will be filling roles next year?
ram0524 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name="DogsDLine" post="1318793" timestamp="1351976612"]I have heard that the back up offense did good but how did the second string defense do?Specifically players who will be filling roles next year?[/quote]They did pretty good last night, Brock will be replaced by Holman and Couron by Johnson, wood and stamp by Barton/mayfield/Stewart, Taylor/barrow/shaw by tinsley and some fast jv guys
football04 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 That's what is going to make a great off season for Coach Neumann and the coaching staff, lots of holes to fill and lots of tallent to work with. We will lose a special senior class no doubt. The best defense I have seen at Nederland was 2000, this group is on that level, no weaknesses anywhere on the field.
player66 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name="ram0524" post="1318735" timestamp="1351973075"][quote author=dogbite link=topic=105606.msg1318733#msg1318733 date=1351972735]Some of those running backs might have to move over to defense at linebacker to fill in for the loss of stampley and wood![/quote]Barton will be a linebacker next year, as well as Stewart[/quote]I do not see Barton playing linebacker.. Seay for sure, Mayfield or Stewart could be the other.
thedogs1987 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name="player66" post="1318859" timestamp="1351982455"][quote author=ram0524 link=topic=105606.msg1318735#msg1318735 date=1351973075][quote author=dogbite link=topic=105606.msg1318733#msg1318733 date=1351972735]Some of those running backs might have to move over to defense at linebacker to fill in for the loss of stampley and wood![/quote]Barton will be a linebacker next year, as well as Stewart[/quote]I do not see Barton playing linebacker.. Seay for sure, Mayfield or Stewart could be the other.[/quote]Agree, about Barton not moving to LB. Barton is in the backfield next season again.I think someone who is not in the know, may get his work at LB (at practice), just as backup this season for playoffs confused.Barton scored his first td last night.....one of the many ahead. Great kid!!!!
ram0524 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 [quote name="thedogs1987" post="1318874" timestamp="1351983285"][quote author=player66 link=topic=105606.msg1318859#msg1318859 date=1351982455][quote author=ram0524 link=topic=105606.msg1318735#msg1318735 date=1351973075][quote author=dogbite link=topic=105606.msg1318733#msg1318733 date=1351972735]Some of those running backs might have to move over to defense at linebacker to fill in for the loss of stampley and wood![/quote]Barton will be a linebacker next year, as well as Stewart[/quote]I do not see Barton playing linebacker.. Seay for sure, Mayfield or Stewart could be the other.[/quote]Agree, about Barton not moving to LB. Barton is in the backfield next season again.I think someone who is not in the know, may get his work at LB (at practice), just as backup this season for playoffs confused.Barton scored his first td last night.....one of the many ahead. Great kid!!!![/quote]Well, I personally know both of them, and Barton likes playing linebacker (backup right now) and Seay likes to play that safety/lineback hybrid
player66 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 [quote name="ram0524" post="1318975" timestamp="1351987634"][quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=105606.msg1318874#msg1318874 date=1351983285][quote author=player66 link=topic=105606.msg1318859#msg1318859 date=1351982455][quote author=ram0524 link=topic=105606.msg1318735#msg1318735 date=1351973075][quote author=dogbite link=topic=105606.msg1318733#msg1318733 date=1351972735]Some of those running backs might have to move over to defense at linebacker to fill in for the loss of stampley and wood![/quote]Barton will be a linebacker next year, as well as Stewart[/quote]I do not see Barton playing linebacker.. Seay for sure, Mayfield or Stewart could be the other.[/quote]Agree, about Barton not moving to LB. Barton is in the backfield next season again.I think someone who is not in the know, may get his work at LB (at practice), just as backup this season for playoffs confused.Barton scored his first td last night.....one of the many ahead. Great kid!!!![/quote]Well, I personally know both of them, and Barton likes playing linebacker (backup right now) and Seay likes to play that safety/lineback hybrid[/quote]You may know them, but I do not think you where the stregths are.
Guest TribePride Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 Who's gonna play QB next few seasons for Nederland?
ram0524 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 [quote name="player66" post="1318979" timestamp="1351987801"][quote author=ram0524 link=topic=105606.msg1318975#msg1318975 date=1351987634][quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=105606.msg1318874#msg1318874 date=1351983285][quote author=player66 link=topic=105606.msg1318859#msg1318859 date=1351982455][quote author=ram0524 link=topic=105606.msg1318735#msg1318735 date=1351973075][quote author=dogbite link=topic=105606.msg1318733#msg1318733 date=1351972735]Some of those running backs might have to move over to defense at linebacker to fill in for the loss of stampley and wood![/quote]Barton will be a linebacker next year, as well as Stewart[/quote]I do not see Barton playing linebacker.. Seay for sure, Mayfield or Stewart could be the other.[/quote]Agree, about Barton not moving to LB. Barton is in the backfield next season again.I think someone who is not in the know, may get his work at LB (at practice), just as backup this season for playoffs confused.Barton scored his first td last night.....one of the many ahead. Great kid!!!![/quote]Well, I personally know both of them, and Barton likes playing linebacker (backup right now) and Seay likes to play that safety/lineback hybrid[/quote]You may know them, but I do not think you where the stregths are.[/quote]I've been on both of there teams, there both just fine where they are, Barton may be a little undersized but hes fast smart and stops the run, and Seay is just good
ram0524 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 [quote name="TribePride" post="1318985" timestamp="1351987959"]Who's gonna play QB next few seasons for Nederland?[/quote]White next year then Smith the year after
thedogs1987 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 [quote name="ram0524" post="1318988" timestamp="1351988340"][quote author=player66 link=topic=105606.msg1318979#msg1318979 date=1351987801][quote author=ram0524 link=topic=105606.msg1318975#msg1318975 date=1351987634][quote author=thedogs1987 link=topic=105606.msg1318874#msg1318874 date=1351983285][quote author=player66 link=topic=105606.msg1318859#msg1318859 date=1351982455][quote author=ram0524 link=topic=105606.msg1318735#msg1318735 date=1351973075][quote author=dogbite link=topic=105606.msg1318733#msg1318733 date=1351972735]Some of those running backs might have to move over to defense at linebacker to fill in for the loss of stampley and wood![/quote]Barton will be a linebacker next year, as well as Stewart[/quote]I do not see Barton playing linebacker.. Seay for sure, Mayfield or Stewart could be the other.[/quote]Agree, about Barton not moving to LB. Barton is in the backfield next season again.I think someone who is not in the know, may get his work at LB (at practice), just as backup this season for playoffs confused.Barton scored his first td last night.....one of the many ahead. Great kid!!!![/quote]Well, I personally know both of them, and Barton likes playing linebacker (backup right now) and Seay likes to play that safety/lineback hybrid[/quote]You may know them, but I do not think you where the stregths are.[/quote]I've been on both of there teams, there both just fine where they are, [b]Barton may be a little undersized [/b] but hes fast smart and stops the run, and Seay is just good[/quote]Dont know if you remember a rb Ned had a few years....Genuardi... Barton runs, size is a lot like him.The back field next season is a coaches dream. Hopkins is having a remarkable season. Can't even believe we get him for another season. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)Defense is the Best we have EVER had.....we have had a lot of great individual players on D, but nothing as fast, strong, the size and smarts like we have now at every position on D.....
football04 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 The 2000 defense was loaded at every position and had more speed in the secondary with Sean Yoder and Ryan Pellitere, but like I said these 2 defenses are in a class by themselves and I agree this years defense is loaded at every position also, I wouldn't want to play against either one.
thedogs1987 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 [quote name="football04" post="1319132" timestamp="1351993514"] The 2000 defense was loaded at every position and had more speed in the secondary with Sean Yoder and Ryan Pellitere, but like I said these 2 defenses are in a class by themselves and I agree this years defense is loaded at every position also, I wouldn't want to play against either one.[/quote]2012....season still going....defense is pitching 2 shutouts in a row...shaw, taylor and crew have nice speed, as 20 4 A knows...wouldn't take anything away from 2000 Dogs, they played their hearts in Bay City game.but 2012 D is on another level...Neumann and company does/has always done a great job with creating solid Defenses!!!!!!All said,Go Dogs!!!
football04 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 These 2 teams are very much a like on defense, offense, special teams and individual personel, loaded at every position, I hope this group can find more success than they did in 2000, like I said 2000 was capable of winning state, just needed to catch a break, this bunch of bulldogs is very much capable of winning a state title as well, let's hope it's a long playoff run that ends in Dallas.
PhatMack19 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 [quote name="TribePride" post="1318985" timestamp="1351987959"]Who's gonna play QB next few seasons for Nederland?[/quote]Seay is the best option IMO, but they may just keep him on defense.
thedogs1987 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 [quote name="football04" post="1319934" timestamp="1352059177"]These 2 teams are very much a like on defense, offense, special teams and individual personel, loaded at every position, I hope this group can find more success than they did in 2000, like I said 2000 was capable of winning state, just needed to catch a break, this bunch of bulldogs is very much capable of winning a state title as well, let's hope it's a long playoff run that ends in Dallas.[/quote]No one gets to a state title game without a few breaks and making that extra yard when needed and stopping someone on that extra yard when needed. All stay healthy, a couple of breaks and playing penalty free fb from here on out is key.I am not overlooking Central next week....we need our A game next week as well....then one game at a time....that's all that matters.Go Dogs!!!!
cooligan Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 Ned's next year QB should be White. Seay is too valuable on D imo. I could see moving Seay to LB and playing some optional O - wilddog, FB, WR etc. White, should be a little more accurate than Raines and may make better decisions. Raines is a much better runner than White though. Either way, The Dogs will be the front runner for another title next season.
ram0524 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 [quote name="85' HUSKER" post="1319989" timestamp="1352064343"]Ned's next year QB should be White. Seay is too valuable on D imo. I could see moving Seay to LB and playing some optional O - wilddog, FB, WR etc. White, should be a little more accurate than Raines and may make better decisions. Raines is a much better runner than White though. Either way, The Dogs will be the front runner for another title next season.[/quote]Seay could probably start over White at QB if they will let him, or if he wants to.
thedogs1987 Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 Good thing about Nederland...Coaches make the decisions (this in not Png).....and they haven't lead us wrong yet...(maybe some were in that crowd when they were calling for Delage NOT to be the QB at the game in Port Arthur...thank God, Neumann knew better and put Delage throwing the rock and Delage took us further in the playoffs than we had been in a long time and since.....)White will do just fine.....accurate passer. 8) 8) 8)He did fine at Lumberton.....glad to have him behind Raines. 8) 8) 8)
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