usedtobe Posted December 18, 2012 Report Posted December 18, 2012 [quote name="cougar14" post="1356431" timestamp="1355863482"][quote author=usedtobe link=topic=107332.msg1356420#msg1356420 date=1355861242][quote author=cougar14 link=topic=107332.msg1356402#msg1356402 date=1355858571]And for the person that made the Rob Parker comment. If you're not African-Amercan and your daughter walked in with a kid with dreadlocks and said she wanted to marry him and didn't play qb for Baylor then or the Skins now how would you feel? Probably like the girl's Dad I used to date at South Dakota State that referred to me as everything but my name. One game I had 16 carries for 145 and 2 tds on our rivals North Dakota State and afterwards someone asked Mr. K, "hey, doesn't your daughter date that guy that plays rb at state". I guess after that he was cool with it because he sent me VHS tapes of the new combine he bought and how it operated for some reason. Rob Parker wasn't that far off with his comments, that's why ESPN didn't initially suspend him. Those comments especially fit down here in the SETX, I'm 29 and most everything I've been taught or absorbed over the years was from older gentlemen (black and white) that passed down the ways they think.[/quote]Nice way to get your faded athletic exploits on the board Courgar. So how does it relate? Parker went off and deserves to be suspended and then fired. Where does it say anywhere that so-called TV Sports Journalists can make derogotory comments about professional players? What gives him that right? And especially to throw the race thing in there. I'll be 75 next month and I was born and raised in Texas. That more than likely makes me a racist - not that all Texans are. I've consciously tried in recent years to adjust my attitude and I have made some progress. I know that things are different in the world and in Texas now than they were when I was growing up. One must adjust to the times. But I personally get set back by the stupid activity of the " Parkers" and analyses like yours. I won't be around as long as you will, but I will still try to improve my attitude for as long as I'm here. 8)[/quote]Sorry if you think I was saying anything that happened to me to because you think I need some glory from my past or for that matter live vicariously through my sons, absolutely nothing of the sort. As usual I was giving a pertinent example that was taken out of context. Funny you think Rob Parker is out of line now but at 75 your still TRYING to change. I have no idea who you are but I can tell you were raised in a house where blacks weren't referred to as black and you just recently started trying to refer to us as black. Your calling me stupid for my analysis but yet can't spell the word. I bet given the opportunity you would "accidently" put a .243 center mass on Obama 'cause you think he wants to take away guns but yet still feel bad when someone can walk into a movie theatre or elementary school and commit mass murder. Have you adjusted to that? Of course not, that's why whenever you're around your buddies it still sounds like 1960. Like your moniker says, you "usedtobe" a racist so don't get on your high horse now to try to make a point you didn't give a d*** about for the first 74 years of your life. As far as I'm concerned you can point your moral compass in a different direction 'cause there's a roadblock over here. *I'm glad your still here though, that way I can show my sons how it "usedtobe". Hopefully you're not here much longer so you and your conglomerate don't have to TRY to adjust anymore.[/quote]Well Cougar, you reacted but you didn't make a whole lot of sense in my opinion. I didn't say anything in my post about "vicariously through your sons." I didn't know you had sons. Also, I was raised in a house that called Blacks "Negroes" with a capital N. That was the prevalent and accepted identification at that period in history. The people of color had not yet become "Blacks" nor had they evolved to "African Americans." So what is your point there? Check the dictionary: analyses is the plural of analysis. It was the tense that I intended to use because had I used analysis it would have restricted my reply to your response. I intended to have my response cover all responses like yours, hence the plural analyses. On the gun thingy - I don't own a gun now nor have I owned a gun in my adult life. The only gun that I ever owned was a 22 single shot that was a Christmas present when I was 14. I don't remember what became of that gun but I know I don't have it now. I don't know why I need to contact either school that your second thought pointed out. Must have something to do with Parker but your point wasn't clear. Elaborate if you need to and then, if there is any merit to it, I might contact the schools you mention. With my age thing I was trying to confess some of my shortcomings. Since you apparently have none, you did not recognize my response for what it was. Cougar, we can keep this going - but you are ill equipped in this battle.
cougar14 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name="usedtobe" post="1356447" timestamp="1355868493"][quote author=cougar14 link=topic=107332.msg1356431#msg1356431 date=1355863482][quote author=usedtobe link=topic=107332.msg1356420#msg1356420 date=1355861242][quote author=cougar14 link=topic=107332.msg1356402#msg1356402 date=1355858571]And for the person that made the Rob Parker comment. If you're not African-Amercan and your daughter walked in with a kid with dreadlocks and said she wanted to marry him and didn't play qb for Baylor then or the Skins now how would you feel? Probably like the girl's Dad I used to date at South Dakota State that referred to me as everything but my name. One game I had 16 carries for 145 and 2 tds on our rivals North Dakota State and afterwards someone asked Mr. K, "hey, doesn't your daughter date that guy that plays rb at state". I guess after that he was cool with it because he sent me VHS tapes of the new combine he bought and how it operated for some reason. Rob Parker wasn't that far off with his comments, that's why ESPN didn't initially suspend him. Those comments especially fit down here in the SETX, I'm 29 and most everything I've been taught or absorbed over the years was from older gentlemen (black and white) that passed down the ways they think.[/quote]Nice way to get your faded athletic exploits on the board Courgar. So how does it relate? Parker went off and deserves to be suspended and then fired. Where does it say anywhere that so-called TV Sports Journalists can make derogotory comments about professional players? What gives him that right? And especially to throw the race thing in there. I'll be 75 next month and I was born and raised in Texas. That more than likely makes me a racist - not that all Texans are. I've consciously tried in recent years to adjust my attitude and I have made some progress. I know that things are different in the world and in Texas now than they were when I was growing up. One must adjust to the times. But I personally get set back by the stupid activity of the " Parkers" and analyses like yours. I won't be around as long as you will, but I will still try to improve my attitude for as long as I'm here. 8)[/quote]Sorry if you think I was saying anything that happened to me to because you think I need some glory from my past or for that matter live vicariously through my sons, absolutely nothing of the sort. As usual I was giving a pertinent example that was taken out of context. Funny you think Rob Parker is out of line now but at 75 your still TRYING to change. I have no idea who you are but I can tell you were raised in a house where blacks weren't referred to as black and you just recently started trying to refer to us as black. Your calling me stupid for my analysis but yet can't spell the word. I bet given the opportunity you would "accidently" put a .243 center mass on Obama 'cause you think he wants to take away guns but yet still feel bad when someone can walk into a movie theatre or elementary school and commit mass murder. Have you adjusted to that? Of course not, that's why whenever you're around your buddies it still sounds like 1960. Like your moniker says, you "usedtobe" a racist so don't get on your high horse now to try to make a point you didn't give a d*** about for the first 74 years of your life. As far as I'm concerned you can point your moral compass in a different direction 'cause there's a roadblock over here. *I'm glad your still here though, that way I can show my sons how it "usedtobe". Hopefully you're not here much longer so you and your conglomerate don't have to TRY to adjust anymore.[/quote]Well Cougar, you reacted but you didn't make a whole lot of sense in my opinion. I didn't say anything in my post about "vicariously through your sons." I didn't know you had sons. Also, I was raised in a house that called Blacks "Negroes" with a capital N. That was the prevalent and accepted identification at that period in history. The people of color had not yet become "Blacks" nor had they evolved to "African Americans." So what is your point there? Check the dictionary: analyses is the plural of analysis. It was the tense that I intended to use because had I used analysis it would have restricted my reply to your response. I intended to have my response cover all responses like yours, hence the plural analyses. On the gun thingy - I don't own a gun now nor have I owned a gun in my adult life. The only gun that I ever owned was a 22 single shot that was a Christmas present when I was 14. I don't remember what became of that gun but I know I don't have it now. I don't know why I need to contact either school that your second thought pointed out. Must have something to do with Parker but your point wasn't clear. Elaborate if you need to and then, if there is any merit to it, I might contact the schools you mention. With my age thing I was trying to confess some of my shortcomings. Since you apparently have none, you did not recognize my response for what it was. Cougar, we can keep this going - but you are ill equipped in this battle.[/quote]That's a decent explanation, I didn't know unicorns still existed though. It says "colored" on my Dad's birth certificate from the late 50's and "negriod"on my Mom's from the early 60's so I'll give you that even though it's extremely hard for me to believe people born 50ish years after reconstruction in the segregated south referred to blacks with words that started with N and didn't end in a consonant. These books and documentaries could be fiction though. I'm also more than equipped, my upbringing has allowed me to become more than average travel wise and my bachelor's degree in something other than kinesiology at least says I have the wherewithal to form an opinion that shouldn't be labeled "stupid" because it's not in line with yours. Just because you're nearly three times as old as me doesn't mean you're three times as wise, I turned 18 in the early 2000's and probably have a better feel for what pre-adults think. That decade could have completely changed the landscape though. I think what I was trying to say about Sumlin RECRUITING not coaching in my earlier post was clear, at least the people who've read my earlier work will understand it. I'll just end with an example, if Mack Brown and Kevin Sumlin switched places RSJ would have stayed committed to Texas like he was before Sumlin got the job, same with Thomas Johnson last year. It's not the SEC man, the top kids would rather go undefeated and play for a national championship and Texas has always offered that over A&M and still does. No matter who the coach Texas has always had and always will have better overall recruiting classes than A&M, that's why when Texas goes 10-2 they get the top recruiting class in the country but A&M goes 10-2 and has to take 18 three star kids. A&M will never have the talent pool Texas has but now Sumlin is getting those high end kids that were all going to Texas and not developing but still going to the NFL and it's not because of the tradition. That's all I'm saying, I'll be done on that note.*Thanks moderators for not locking the thread. Goes to show non-idiotic statements can still be accepted, even if it is just offseason reading material. I promised my better half I would just check the recruiting news until the season started so that's what I'll TRY to do, just couldn't help myself. Still to this day SETX is the only message board I've ever posted on, darn near feels like a locker room.
TradinUp BH Posted December 19, 2012 Report Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name="cougar14" post="1356365" timestamp="1355852909"][quote author=TradinUp BH link=topic=107332.msg1356252#msg1356252 date=1355804643]As if Cougar14 bubble wasn't already busted, Coach Sumlins wife is white. Dang Cougar, better do better research man. That theory isn't working. ;)[/quote]Burst my bubble? Charlie Strong and Turner Gill's wife are also white. Not sure about Joker Phillips or Alan Embry but what does that have to do with anything? Unlike most of the posters on here all I do is research, that's why I get pms all the time that say "good research" or a parent asking me for an off the record opinion even sometime giving me very personal information about their kid. They say the resaon Turner Gill didn't get the Auburn job and Charlie Strong turned down the Tennessee job was because they had white wives and weren't going to be able to recruit in the SEC. I never brought that up because I don't think that was necessarily true. This is what Kevin Sumlin dealt with growing up early in Alabama and the reasons he left.http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/page/football-120905maisel/college-football-sumlin-father-recalls-coaching-segregated-south. It's even more of a recruiting pitch to say hey, "I know what it's like coming from the South and having to go to school where you don't necessarily fit in." Do y'all think behind closed doors when he's talking to these kids parents it's all about the 12th man or yell practice? Y'all are off your rocker. He's recruiting kids from places that were some of the most segregated in the country. If so I guess you believe over 70% of minorities voted for Obama because he's a democrat? My parents make well over that $250k mark where the taxes are increased and both registered republicans but still voted for Obama, I'll give you one guess why. Not saying he's the best candidate but when given the opportunity people's minds can be swayed by external factors that are apolitical and the same can be said for Sumlin in the football spectrum. My 12 year old son is almost 6' tall, 140 lbs and bench presses 165 already and can touch the nets on a 10' goal but my 6 year old just beat him in a 40 yard dash. I say that to say one or all three of my sons will probably get football scholarships just like Dad and all three current cousins that are of age and playing FBS football or have FBS offers. Even though the A&M board of regents gave me my economics degree in '06 UT was still the school of choice for me to send my kids to just like two of my uncles and one of my cousins that is currently playing for the Horns . . . . That was until A&M made a hire that shifted the Texas recruiting landscape. *I know most of y'all will read the article and say this stuff happened a long time ago but you're old enough to remember it vividly, some of you were probably part of the "Seperate but Equal" doctorine so I don't expect you to understand and you probably never will. I'm sure y'all would have been right along with the group watching Emmit Till also, but hey, the Aggies are relevant again and that's all that matters.[/quote]His dad grew up in Alabama, not him. ::) I'm done with this argument because it's going south.
Scatright Posted December 19, 2012 Report Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name="cougar14" post="1356365" timestamp="1355852909"][quote author=TradinUp BH link=topic=107332.msg1356252#msg1356252 date=1355804643]As if Cougar14 bubble wasn't already busted, Coach Sumlins wife is white. Dang Cougar, better do better research man. That theory isn't working. ;)[/quote]Burst my bubble? Charlie Strong and Turner Gill's wife are also white. Not sure about Joker Phillips or Alan Embry but what does that have to do with anything? Unlike most of the posters on here all I do is research, that's why I get pms all the time that say "good research" or a parent asking me for an off the record opinion even sometime giving me very personal information about their kid. They say the resaon Turner Gill didn't get the Auburn job and Charlie Strong turned down the Tennessee job was because they had white wives and weren't going to be able to recruit in the SEC. I never brought that up because I don't think that was necessarily true. This is what Kevin Sumlin dealt with growing up early in Alabama and the reasons he left.http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/page/football-120905maisel/college-football-sumlin-father-recalls-coaching-segregated-south. It's even more of a recruiting pitch to say hey, "I know what it's like coming from the South and having to go to school where you don't necessarily fit in." Do y'all think behind closed doors when he's talking to these kids parents it's all about the 12th man or yell practice? Y'all are off your rocker. He's recruiting kids from places that were some of the most segregated in the country. If so I guess you believe over 70% of minorities voted for Obama because he's a democrat? My parents make well over that $250k mark where the taxes are increased and both registered republicans but still voted for Obama, I'll give you one guess why. Not saying he's the best candidate but when given the opportunity people's minds can be swayed by external factors that are apolitical and the same can be said for Sumlin in the football spectrum. [b]My 12 year old son is almost 6' tall, 140 lbs and bench presses 165 already and can touch the nets on a 10' goal but my 6 year old just beat him in a 40 yard dash.[/b] I say that to say one or all three of my sons will probably get football scholarships just like Dad and all three current cousins that are of age and playing FBS football or have FBS offers. Even though the A&M board of regents gave me my economics degree in '06 UT was still the school of choice for me to send my kids to just like two of my uncles and one of my cousins that is currently playing for the Horns . . . . That was until A&M made a hire that shifted the Texas recruiting landscape. *I know most of y'all will read the article and say this stuff happened a long time ago but you're old enough to remember it vividly, some of you were probably part of the "Seperate but Equal" doctorine so I don't expect you to understand and you probably never will. I'm sure y'all would have been right along with the group watching Emmit Till also, but hey, the Aggies are relevant again and that's all that matters. [/quote]You are 29, have a 12 year old son, and played college football in South Dakota? Interesting.
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