BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 (14.3%)Nederland (85.7% OzenVoting Results as of 3:30 p.m.
Honest Abe Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Posted January 9, 2013 Nash brings up some good points (again). He's used this analogy a few times in which i haven't heard a strong rebuttal against. I have yet to see anyone 'stop' Weisbrod. Some have slowed him down, but he's going to score. He's averaging 20.2 ppg. PNG held him to 5 first half points by packing in their zone. The result: English made 5/8 3s, Kimler added 2, and four others made 1 each. He ended the game with 15. His season low was 10 against Cy-Ridge, a game where English did not play bc of his ankle. I watched 3-6'6" kids triple team Colton this summer in an AAU game, and he scored the game winning shot. He probably should have passed the ball to an open player, but fortunately it went in. I don't recall Ozen having any Bigs who play much or who can 'stop' him. Maybe someone can correct me on that fact.
Honest Abe Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1362239" timestamp="1357766462"] (14.3%)Nederland (85.7% OzenVoting Results as of 3:30 p.m.[/quote]I think you have that backwards. We would rather be the Under'Dawgs' though!
stevenash Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 If there is a way to "stop" Weisbrod, it is going to involve a "help" defense. If that happens, and the "helpers" permit their own man to score, it is essentially the same as Weisbrod scoring.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name="Honest Abe" post="1362243" timestamp="1357766866"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108075.msg1362239#msg1362239 date=1357766462] (14.3%)Nederland (85.7% OzenVoting Results as of 3:30 p.m.[/quote]I think you have that backwards. We would rather be the Under'Dawgs' though![/quote]Abe, I tried!!! :D
BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 So, yall saying if Ozen (happens to) win, it will be an upset? Hold on a minute, let me make sure I'm not on the football forum before I post this.
CThoops Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1362250" timestamp="1357769078"]So, yall saying if Ozen (happens to) win, it will be an upset? Hold on a minute, let me make sure I'm not on the football forum before I post this.[/quote]Ain't it funny!? ;DBut I don't think it will be an upset whoever wins..
BMTSoulja1 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 Weisbrod is the defending offensive MVP of the district and until proven otherwise, he will remain a task for anyone to stop. Ozen does have speed and athleticism to slow him down as a team, but as someone have pointed out, what do you do with little English? I'm very interested in knowing. I think I'll attend this game.
ram0524 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 Nederland will have to keep making the 3. I think we will, so Ned by at least 5. The crowed is going to be a factor. The dome will be loud come Friday night. The Bulldog players feed from the crowd.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1362256" timestamp="1357770428"]Weisbrod is the defending offensive MVP of the district and until proven otherwise, he will remain a task for anyone to stop. Ozen does have speed and athleticism to slow him down as a team, but as someone have pointed out, what do you do with little English? I'm very interested in knowing. I think I'll attend this game.[/quote] I'm almost sure that Weisbrod, English and that group have never beaten a team I've been associated with since the 5th grade thru last summer. So I don't see why the streak can't continue Friday.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name="ram0524" post="1362257" timestamp="1357770930"]Nederland will have to keep making the 3. I think we will, so Ned by at least 5. The crowed is going to be a factor. The dome will be loud come Friday night. The Bulldog players feed from the crowd.[/quote] Nederland will not make any 3's if Ozen plays man!!!!!
asary Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 ^^^^ true. If Ozen plays man prob take our 3's away so we will just have to shoot layups and free throws . That would be OK
asary Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 Soulja what defense did Ozen play against Central?
BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name="5 on 5" post="1362265" timestamp="1357771933"]Soulja what defense did Ozen play against Central?[/quote]ASK ME!!!! What you asking Souljah1 for??????? ;D
BMTSoulja1 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 It appeared they ran a zone, not sure which kind, but it was apparent they want expecting us to shoot good. Ozen made their mad run on us with their vicious full court press and half choir traps. They don't have length, but they are quick on D.
BMTSoulja1 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1362270" timestamp="1357772436"][quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108075.msg1362265#msg1362265 date=1357771933]Soulja what defense did Ozen play against Central?[/quote]ASK ME!!!! What you asking Souljah1 for??????? ;D[/quote] ;D Because you're the one that stated that Central will make to Austin. Do you think the Nederland faithful will take you seriously? Lol
stevenash Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1362261" timestamp="1357771254"][quote author=ram0524 link=topic=108075.msg1362257#msg1362257 date=1357770930]Nederland will have to keep making the 3. I think we will, so Ned by at least 5. The crowed is going to be a factor. The dome will be loud come Friday night. The Bulldog players feed from the crowd.[/quote] Nederland will not make any 3's if Ozen plays man!!!!![/quote]If Ozen plays man, Weisbrod likely to have a very big night
stevenash Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1362260" timestamp="1357771182"][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108075.msg1362256#msg1362256 date=1357770428]Weisbrod is the defending offensive MVP of the district and until proven otherwise, he will remain a task for anyone to stop. Ozen does have speed and athleticism to slow him down as a team, but as someone have pointed out, what do you do with little English? I'm very interested in knowing. I think I'll attend this game.[/quote] I'm almost sure that Weisbrod, English and that group have never beaten a team I've been associated with since the 5th grade thru last summer. So I don't see why the streak can't continue Friday.[/quote]Please note the wording carefully- I'm "almost" sure.
AggiesAreWe Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1362277" timestamp="1357774099"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108075.msg1362261#msg1362261 date=1357771254][quote author=ram0524 link=topic=108075.msg1362257#msg1362257 date=1357770930]Nederland will have to keep making the 3. I think we will, so Ned by at least 5. The crowed is going to be a factor. The dome will be loud come Friday night. The Bulldog players feed from the crowd.[/quote] Nederland will not make any 3's if Ozen plays man!!!!![/quote]If Ozen plays man, Weisbrod likely to have a very big night[/quote]What would classify as a "big" night? Meaning points, rebounds, blocks, etc. etc....
Honest Abe Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Posted January 10, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1362250" timestamp="1357769078"]So, yall saying if Ozen (happens to) win, it will be an upset? Hold on a minute, let me make sure I'm not on the football forum before I post this.[/quote]I don't think either team should be expected to win or 'favored' to win. They are evenly matched, and I think home court will make a difference. These teams each won their game at home in district last year, and I would not be surprised if the same happens this year. Over the past 3 seasons, these two teams have played 8 times. Ned won 5 of those games, so I'm uncertain of your reference to the FB forum?
Honest Abe Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Posted January 10, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1362260" timestamp="1357771182"][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108075.msg1362256#msg1362256 date=1357770428]Weisbrod is the defending offensive MVP of the district and until proven otherwise, he will remain a task for anyone to stop. Ozen does have speed and athleticism to slow him down as a team, but as someone have pointed out, what do you do with little English? I'm very interested in knowing. I think I'll attend this game.[/quote] I'm almost sure that Weisbrod, English and that group have never beaten a team I've been associated with since the 5th grade thru last summer. So I don't see why the streak can't continue Friday.[/quote]Since English is 2 years older than the teams you mention, he has not played many of the teams you have been associated with. I know Ned beat a Beaumont team this past summer in 'summer ball', and last year, the Little Doves were on JV. So you may be right since they have't played a real game yet. :)
BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 [quote name="Honest Abe" post="1362288" timestamp="1357778373"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108075.msg1362260#msg1362260 date=1357771182][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108075.msg1362256#msg1362256 date=1357770428]Weisbrod is the defending offensive MVP of the district and until proven otherwise, he will remain a task for anyone to stop. Ozen does have speed and athleticism to slow him down as a team, but as someone have pointed out, what do you do with little English? I'm very interested in knowing. I think I'll attend this game.[/quote] I'm almost sure that Weisbrod, English and that group have never beaten a team I've been associated with since the 5th grade thru last summer. So I don't see why the streak can't continue Friday.[/quote]Since English is 2 years older than the teams you mention, he has not played many of the teams you have been associated with. I know Ned beat a Beaumont team this past summer in 'summer ball', and last year, the Little Doves were on JV. So you may be right since they have't played a real game yet. :)[/quote] Bmt. HoopStars kill the Nederland teams when they play. But thats another subject.
Honest Abe Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Posted January 10, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1362295" timestamp="1357780892"][quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108075.msg1362288#msg1362288 date=1357778373][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108075.msg1362260#msg1362260 date=1357771182][quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108075.msg1362256#msg1362256 date=1357770428]Weisbrod is the defending offensive MVP of the district and until proven otherwise, he will remain a task for anyone to stop. Ozen does have speed and athleticism to slow him down as a team, but as someone have pointed out, what do you do with little English? I'm very interested in knowing. I think I'll attend this game.[/quote] I'm almost sure that Weisbrod, English and that group have never beaten a team I've been associated with since the 5th grade thru last summer. So I don't see why the streak can't continue Friday.[/quote]Since English is 2 years older than the teams you mention, he has not played many of the teams you have been associated with. I know Ned beat a Beaumont team this past summer in 'summer ball', and last year, the Little Doves were on JV. So you may be right since they have't played a real game yet. :)[/quote] Bmt. HoopStars kill the Nederland teams when they play. But thats another subject.[/quote]Are you talking AAU teams? I don't recall MC Flight playing them over the past 2 summers, although in did miss a few games. Either way Dove, it's not organized basketball, and also, what's your point?
panther blue Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 What type of defense, Ozen played when they defeated Nederland in the playoffs at lamar last year. man to man, zone, box and one, or street ball ? go panthers !!
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