Honest Abe Posted January 14, 2013 Report Posted January 14, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1363418" timestamp="1358190304"] ;D Dove- Please read below about the Dogs just in case your vision is declining[color=red][font=times new roman][size=14pt][b]20-4A District Champs 2010-2012Bi-District Champs 2010-2012Area Champs 2010-2012Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012Regional Semi-Finalist 2011[/b][/size][/font][/color][/quote];D ;D
BIG SHOW Posted January 14, 2013 Report Posted January 14, 2013 [quote name="5 on 5" post="1363414" timestamp="1358189826"]Just curious.....has our "savior" been identified yet? I'm hoping to be able to get a good night sleep tonight[/quote]My best guess would be Washington....Someone on the forum said something about a 6"4 guy and rebounding.
Who By Fire Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1363423" timestamp="1358191075"][quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108148.msg1363414#msg1363414 date=1358189826]Just curious.....has our "savior" been identified yet? I'm hoping to be able to get a good night sleep tonight[/quote]My best guess would be Washington....Someone on the forum said something about a 6"4 guy and rebounding. [/quote]Did Nederland get their "savior"?
stevenash Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 Dove, were you aware of the following regarding Nederland basketball?20-4A District Champs 2010-2012Bi-District Champs 2010-2012Area Champs 2010-2012Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012Regional Semi-Finalist 2011
BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1363604" timestamp="1358262268"]Dove, were you aware of the following regarding Nederland basketball?20-4A District Champs 2010-2012Bi-District Champs 2010-2012Area Champs 2010-2012Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012Regional Semi-Finalist 2011[/quote] Actually I just noticed all of these accomplishments were done during a very short period- 2010 thru 2012. Short ride but at least yall got a taste ;D
stevenash Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 I think it speaks volumes about Mr. English's coaching ability, don't you?
BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1363619" timestamp="1358265412"]I think it speaks volumes about Mr. English's coaching ability, don't you?[/quote]Yes it does. ::)
Honest Abe Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1363624" timestamp="1358266716"][quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108148.msg1363619#msg1363619 date=1358265412]I think it speaks volumes about Mr. English's coaching ability, don't you?[/quote]Yes it does. ::)[/quote]I'm proud of ya Dove. I know that was hard to say! ;)
rc2182 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 Not trying to knock coach English and his accomplishments, but when will he add a state appearance more or less a state championship to his accomplishments. With all the praise he get on this site you would think colleges would be knocking his door down.
AggiesAreWe Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name="rc2182" post="1363629" timestamp="1358267792"][b]Not trying to knock coach English and his accomplishments[/b], but when will he add a state appearance more or less a state championship to his accomplishments. With all the praise he get on this site you would think colleges would be knocking his door down.[/quote]It's a good thing you didn't "try" to knock Coach English. ::)
BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name="Honest Abe" post="1363626" timestamp="1358267209"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108148.msg1363624#msg1363624 date=1358266716][quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108148.msg1363619#msg1363619 date=1358265412]I think it speaks volumes about Mr. English's coaching ability, don't you?[/quote]Yes it does. ::)[/quote]I'm proud of ya Dove. I know that was hard to say! ;)[/quote] Yes it was!!! But not as bad giving props to HJ coaches ;)
rc2182 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 I am not ,actually think he is a good coach, just feels the bar has been set to high, is that fair to him? ::) ::)
Dick Vitale Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 Trust me, Coach English has surpassed that bar LONG ago in Nederland! They used to get beat by PA Lincoln by 60 and 70 points! I know we put 60+ on them while I was at Ozen...NOW they are competing for district titles and BEATING the Port Arthur team that is now 5A...I would say that bar is LONG GONE!
rc2182 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 Welcome to 2013 Port Arthur use to dominate basketball years ago our area was known for football how is that working out now?
Dick Vitale Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 Yes, and I am telling you that expectations were not that great for NEDERLAND BASKETBALL for that very reason. Coach E has gone above and beyond with that program.
rc2182 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 Yes he has ,but the ultimate goal is to win championships and maybe that's coming and I am sure coach English would say the same.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 [color=yellow]20-4A District Champs 2010-2012Bi-District Champs 2010-2012Area Champs 2010-2012[/color][color=pink]Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012Regional Semi-Finalist 2011 [/color]
Dick Vitale Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 Well look at it this way..... how many teams in District 20-4A even HAVE a State APPEARANCE let alone a State Title? Two...Ozen and Central, with only Ozen winning a state championship...OK, in the ENTIRE Golden Triangle in the last 20 years? How many schools have won a title? 4...Ozen, HJ, Kountze, and Evadale...They aren't GIVING state titles away, man....They are very hard to come by...Nederland has done very well under Coach E., but to expect a state title out of them is a bit much...Not saying that it will NEVER happen, but look at the number of schools in this area over the last 20-25 years that HAVE...FOUR schools...They are not easy to come by my friend.
5GallonBucket Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1363657" timestamp="1358271431"]Well look at it this way..... how many teams in District 20-4A even HAVE a State APPEARANCE let alone a State Title? Two...Ozen and Central, with only Ozen winning a state championship...OK, in the ENTIRE Golden Triangle in the last 20 years? How many schools have won a title? 4...Ozen, HJ, Kountze, and Evadale...They aren't GIVING state titles away, man....They are very hard to come by...Nederland has done very well under Coach E., but to expect a state title out of them is a bit much...Not saying that it will NEVER happen, but look at the number of schools in this area over the last 20-25 years that HAVE...FOUR schools...They are not easy to come by my friend.[/quote]Don't forget Lincoln 88, 89, 91
Honest Abe Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name="rc2182" post="1363653" timestamp="1358271024"]Yes he has ,but the ultimate goal is to win championships and maybe that's coming and I am sure coach English would say the same.[/quote]Did Coach English tell you that is his ultimate goal? I'm sure every coach would love a state appearance and/or title, but it can't be a realistic expectation. I think it's more about life lessons and providing the best opportunity and experience for each kid he coaches. He's trying to help them reach their full potential. Last year was not a state championship year, but it helped a kid earn a scholarship to receive a free education and play basketball for 4 years. He was ecstatic that he helped the kid achieve that honor. We all know it takes a lot of skill and luck to reach state and win it. It will need to be a special group and/or player(s). This IS a special group, but there may be a piece missing. 2016 is also a special group, but they too have something missing. As DV mentioned, the bar has been surpassed. One playoff appearance from 1955-2008, now four (this year will be 5) in a row including:20-4A District Champs 2010-2012Bi-District Champs 2010-2012Area Champs 2010-2012Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012Regional Semi-Finalist 2011Just for you BD3! ;) ;D
Honest Abe Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name="rc2182" post="1363653" timestamp="1358271024"]Yes he has ,but the ultimate goal is to win championships and maybe that's coming and I am sure coach English would say the same.[/quote]
Dick Vitale Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 [quote name="5gallonbucket" post="1363660" timestamp="1358271878"][quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=108148.msg1363657#msg1363657 date=1358271431]Well look at it this way..... how many teams in District 20-4A even HAVE a State APPEARANCE let alone a State Title? Two...Ozen and Central, with only Ozen winning a state championship...OK, in the ENTIRE Golden Triangle in the last 20 years? How many schools have won a title? 4...Ozen, HJ, Kountze, and Evadale...They aren't GIVING state titles away, man....They are very hard to come by...Nederland has done very well under Coach E., but to expect a state title out of them is a bit much...Not saying that it will NEVER happen, but look at the number of schools in this area over the last 20-25 years that HAVE...FOUR schools...They are not easy to come by my friend.[/quote]Don't forget Lincoln 88, 89, 91 [/quote] They also won one in 1995, but who's counting!! ;) Lincoln is no longer with us, sadly, and I DARE not give those accolades to Memorial! :D...But hopefully, you all got my point! 8)
CThoops Posted January 15, 2013 Report Posted January 15, 2013 English has built a system over here in Nederland. He is a good coach, but a better team-builder.I hope Nederland wins every-year, but honestly, the best team English had to make it to Austin was the 2011 class.. Hope I am wrongBut all this talk of English had nothing to do with this outcome. Ozen just plain outplayed them for 3 quarters. Nederland will be just fine and still in the hunt for district again
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