**#2 HARDIN-JEFFERSON vs. #3 SILSBEE @ Ford Park/SILSBEE WINS 81-76!!

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364681" timestamp="1358521407"]
If you are so confident in your beliefs then Freeze, why dont we make a bet on the game between WOS and Hj next Friday?
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Why would i bet with a team that I  know nothing about? Not going to happen

[KHSAlum400]

[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1364674" timestamp="1358520589"]
So you think nederland is athletic???..hahahaha. Lazeek you named one team outside of WOS and Silsbee. Dont forget you guys have played over 20+ games. [b]Nash its no talking to you because if its not a positive for HJ its all wrong[/b]
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Attaboy!  :D ;)

[stevenash]

[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1364692" timestamp="1358524401"]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364681#msg1364681 date=1358521407]
If you are so confident in your beliefs then Freeze, why dont we make a bet on the game between WOS and Hj next Friday?
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Why would i bet with a team that I  know nothing about? Not going to happen
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You have already stated they are athletic.  They beat HJ before and you are the expert on how much trouble HJ has with athletic teams.  Put your $ where your mouth is.

[Honest Abe]

Since when does an 'athletic' team matter so much? U say Nederland is not athletic, yet Nederland has beaten MANY 'athletic' teams this year AND lost to about 5 'athletic' teams this year.
HJ beat Central, Kountze, Longview, and Tatum, yet lost to Silsbee and WOS. Out of those 6 teams, they are 4-2.
Any idea what is Silsbee's record this year against athletic teams?

[stevenash]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1364748" timestamp="1358536439"]
Since when does an 'athletic' team matter so much? U say Nederland is not athletic, yet Nederland has beaten MANY 'athletic' teams this year AND lost to about 5 'athletic' teams this year.
HJ beat Central, Kountze, Longview, and Tatum, yet lost to Silsbee and WOS. Out of those 6 teams, they are 4-2.
Any idea what is Silsbee's record this year against athletic teams?
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You can also add in that in both losses, the games were quite close.  Kountze, Tatum, and Longview were very athletic.  Those dont get mentioned because it doesnt support the faulty case they are trying to make.

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364730" timestamp="1358533400"]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364692#msg1364692 date=1358524401]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364681#msg1364681 date=1358521407]
If you are so confident in your beliefs then Freeze, why dont we make a bet on the game between WOS and Hj next Friday?
[/quote]

Why would i bet with a team that I  know nothing about? Not going to happen
[/quote]

You have already stated they are athletic.  They beat HJ before and you are the expert on how much trouble HJ has with athletic teams.  Put your $ where your mouth is.
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When your 25-3 (i think) and 2 out of the 3 games you lose is to more athletic and physical team, what would your outlook be.

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1364748" timestamp="1358536439"]
Since when does an 'athletic' team matter so much? U say Nederland is not athletic, yet Nederland has beaten MANY 'athletic' teams this year AND lost to about 5 'athletic' teams this year.
HJ beat Central, Kountze, Longview, and Tatum, yet lost to Silsbee and WOS. Out of those 6 teams, they are 4-2.
Any idea what is Silsbee's record this year against athletic teams?
[/quote]

Central blasted HJ this year. They got physical with Johnson and Bosha and the rest was history. Kountze and Tatum are 2a schools I think. you cant match a small town 2a to a big city 2a or a 4a school. Longview yall beat. Speaking about Nederland, they might not be athletic but they are physical, something HJ hasnt been this year. They have won with quickness and 30 foot 3 point shots. When that press doesn't work they tend to have trouble. And Nash the Silsbee was up by almost 30. A bad 4th quarter by Silsbee and a good shooting quarter by HJ got them back in the game. [i][b]I will repeat HJ cant handle athletic and physical teams.[/b][/i]

[Honest Abe]

I guess it is also safe to say that Silsbee does not do well against finesse teams since the Tigers lost to Nederland and Katy Taylor?

[stevenash]

[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1364759" timestamp="1358537787"]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108282.msg1364748#msg1364748 date=1358536439]
Since when does an 'athletic' team matter so much? U say Nederland is not athletic, yet Nederland has beaten MANY 'athletic' teams this year AND lost to about 5 'athletic' teams this year.
HJ beat Central, Kountze, Longview, and Tatum, yet lost to Silsbee and WOS. Out of those 6 teams, they are 4-2.
Any idea what is Silsbee's record this year against athletic teams?
[/quote]

Central blasted HJ this year. They got physical with Johnson and Bosha and the rest was history. Kountze and Tatum are 2a schools I think. you cant match a small town 2a to a big city 2a or a 4a school. Longview yall beat. Speaking about Nederland, they might not be athletic but they are physical, something HJ hasnt been this year. They have won with quickness and 30 foot 3 point shots. When that press doesn't work they tend to have trouble. And Nash the Silsbee was up by almost 30. A bad 4th quarter by Silsbee and a good shooting quarter by HJ got them back in the game. [i][b]I will repeat HJ cant handle athletic and physical teams.[/b][/i]
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Bring it, dont sing it.  Make your bet on the upcoming HJ WOS game.  By the way, Silsbee was up by a similar amount last year in the first game before making a shot at the buzzer to win.  Hj won the rematch by 5.  What does that say about athleticism? SInce HJ cant handle athletic teams, you give me HJ and 5 points for the WOS game and I will give you 3 to 1 odds.  If you dont like that, we can just bet straight up.  Surely, someone as knowledgeable and confident as you are is willing to do this.  How much?

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364792" timestamp="1358544185"]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364759#msg1364759 date=1358537787]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108282.msg1364748#msg1364748 date=1358536439]
Since when does an 'athletic' team matter so much? U say Nederland is not athletic, yet Nederland has beaten MANY 'athletic' teams this year AND lost to about 5 'athletic' teams this year.
HJ beat Central, Kountze, Longview, and Tatum, yet lost to Silsbee and WOS. Out of those 6 teams, they are 4-2.
Any idea what is Silsbee's record this year against athletic teams?
[/quote]

Central blasted HJ this year. They got physical with Johnson and Bosha and the rest was history. Kountze and Tatum are 2a schools I think. you cant match a small town 2a to a big city 2a or a 4a school. Longview yall beat. Speaking about Nederland, they might not be athletic but they are physical, something HJ hasnt been this year. They have won with quickness and 30 foot 3 point shots. When that press doesn't work they tend to have trouble. And Nash the Silsbee was up by almost 30. A bad 4th quarter by Silsbee and a good shooting quarter by HJ got them back in the game. [i][b]I will repeat HJ cant handle athletic and physical teams.[/b][/i]
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Bring it, dont sing it.  Make your bet on the upcoming HJ WOS game.  By the way, Silsbee was up by a similar amount last year in the first game before making a shot at the buzzer to win.  Hj won the rematch by 5.  What does that say about athleticism? SInce HJ cant handle athletic teams, you give me HJ and 5 points for the WOS game and I will give you 3 to 1 odds.  If you dont like that, we can just bet straight up.  Surely, someone as knowledgeable and confident as you are is willing to do this.  How much?
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Last year HJ was athletic and shawn was a men amongst boys. I'm not betting on WOS. Why would I do that. Just face it. THIS YEAR Silsbee is better than HJ. It's that simple. To beat HJ all u have to is be physical and show you won't back down from that press and its over. The 3 games the press was exposed and you played physical against them they lost. It's not because HJ was out coached but because the other 3 teams had better athletes.

[freeze 1914]

Silsbee will sweep the series this year

[stevenash]

[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1364795" timestamp="1358545435"]
Silsbee will sweep the series this year
[/quote]

You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about this.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it?

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364798" timestamp="1358546182"]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364795#msg1364795 date=1358545435]
Silsbee will sweep the series this year
[/quote]

You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about this.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it?
[/quote]

I don't have to bet. When they lose to Silsbee AGAIN I will get the chance to say I told you so. 2 scorers won't beat Silsbee

[Gucci]

[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1364799" timestamp="1358546653"]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364798#msg1364798 date=1358546182]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364795#msg1364795 date=1358545435]
Silsbee will sweep the series this year
[/quote]

You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about this.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it?
[/quote]

I don't have to bet. When they lose to Silsbee AGAIN I will get the chance to say I told you so. 2 scorers won't beat Silsbee
[/quote]Of course Silsbee is better then HJ this year. Think about it, Hj is at a disadvantage this year. Silsbee star should be a sophomore in college.....

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Gucci" post="1364804" timestamp="1358548691"]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364799#msg1364799 date=1358546653]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364798#msg1364798 date=1358546182]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364795#msg1364795 date=1358545435]
Silsbee will sweep the series this year
[/quote]

You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about this.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it?
[/quote]

I don't have to bet. When they lose to Silsbee AGAIN I will get the chance to say I told you so. 2 scorers won't beat Silsbee
[/quote]Of course Silsbee is better then HJ this year. Think about it, Hj is at a disadvantage this year. Silsbee star should be a sophomore in college.....
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Hahaha. Stop that. We both know that's not true. That kid not even 19 yet. HJ just not ready for that level of competition this year. They are just fine beating on the east chambers and anuhuacs of the world

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Gucci" post="1364804" timestamp="1358548691"]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364799#msg1364799 date=1358546653]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364798#msg1364798 date=1358546182]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364795#msg1364795 date=1358545435]
Silsbee will sweep the series this year
[/quote]

You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about this.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it?
[/quote]

I don't have to bet. When they lose to Silsbee AGAIN I will get the chance to say I told you so. 2 scorers won't beat Silsbee
[/quote]Of course Silsbee is better then HJ this year. Think about it, Hj is at a disadvantage this year. Silsbee star should be a sophomore in college.....
[/quote]C'mon now. You know thats not true. And I have the proof  ;)

[stevenash]

[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1364799" timestamp="1358546653"]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364798#msg1364798 date=1358546182]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364795#msg1364795 date=1358545435]
Silsbee will sweep the series this year
[/quote]

You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about this.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it?
[/quote]

I don't have to bet. When they lose to Silsbee AGAIN I will get the chance to say I told you so. 2 scorers won't beat Silsbee
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Two scorers from Nederland beat Silsbee on their home floor.  You arent betting becaue you are not sure about whay you are saying.  No problem.  We both understand that talk is cheap

[Gucci]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364812" timestamp="1358550338"]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364799#msg1364799 date=1358546653]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364798#msg1364798 date=1358546182]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364795#msg1364795 date=1358545435]
Silsbee will sweep the series this year
[/quote]

You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about this.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it?
[/quote]

I don't have to bet. When they lose to Silsbee AGAIN I will get the chance to say I told you so. 2 scorers won't beat Silsbee
[/quote]

Two scorers from Nederland beat Silsbee on their home floor.  You arent betting becaue you are not sure about whay you are saying.  No problem.  We both understand that talk is cheap
[/quote]Nash you shouldn't be so intimidating. Last year i was trying to bet all of Silsbee and all i got was crickets.

[stevenash]

Lets just say that everyone has their convictions "to a point".  I am convinced that Stephen F. Austin will beat Duke in the NCAAs this year but not going to put any money on it.

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364812" timestamp="1358550338"]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364799#msg1364799 date=1358546653]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108282.msg1364798#msg1364798 date=1358546182]
[quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108282.msg1364795#msg1364795 date=1358545435]
Silsbee will sweep the series this year
[/quote]

You are OBVIOUSLY afraid to make the west orange bet so how about t his.  You make the WOS bet and the Silsbee bet.  Looking at it from your viewpoint, the Silsbee bet is a lock and if somehow lowly HJ (who cant handle athletic teams) manages to eke out a victory of WOS you break even.  But based on your deep understanding of athleticism and of HJ, it ought to be two easy bets.  How about it?
[/quote]

I don't have to bet. When they lose to Silsbee AGAIN I will get the chance to say I told you so. 2 scorers won't beat Silsbee
[/quote]

Two scorers from Nederland beat Silsbee on their home floor.  You arent betting becaue you are not sure about whay you are saying.  No problem.  We both understand that talk is cheap
[/quote]


I bet nederland did run a point zone press either. Just face it HJ is not what they use to be. Stick to the 2a schools to keep the winning seasons. The big boys not having it this year. Betting not go solve nothing. I'm go get a kick outta clowning you when Silsbee wins. AGAIN.

[stevenash]

And I will be here to discuss both the West Orange game and Silsbee game with you.  By the way, you mentioned Silsbee 30 point lead and the only reason they didnt maintain it was because HJ had a good quarter.  Therefore, without betting, it should be an easy prediction for you to say Silsbee by +20 since they play a tough schedule, are more athletics, and are part of the "big boys'.  Come on now, a man with your knowledge and expreince is bound to make that prediction because, after all, a five point victory suggests the teams are pretty similar.

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1364828" timestamp="1358553921"]
And I will be here to discuss both the West Orange game and Silsbee game with you.  By the way, you mentioned Silsbee 30 point lead and the only reason they didnt maintain it was because HJ had a good quarter.  Therefore, without betting, it should be an easy prediction for you to say Silsbee by +20 since they play a tough schedule, are more athletics, and are part of the "big boys'.  Come on now, a man with your knowledge and expreince is bound to make that prediction because, after all, a five point victory suggests the teams are pretty similar.
[/quote]

Silsbee won. That's the only stat matter. Just take the L like a man

[Guest Air Bisquit]

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[bmrm]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1364019" timestamp="1358316216"]
Score by quarters


                                      1          2          3            4            tot
Hardin-Jefferson              8          14        17          37          76
Silsbee                          20          19        21          21          81



FT %

HJ        14/24      58%
SIL        18/27      67%


3 point %

HJ        6/21        29%
SIL      2/14        14%


Rebounds

HJ          39
SIL        40


Turnovers

HJ          21
SIL          19



Individual scoring

HJ

Braiden Harmon                22
Devante Johnson              20
Zjori Bosha                        17
Sammy Mitchell                  9
Travis Stevens                    5
Dylan Mayes                        3


Silsbee

Chris Elam                          32
Jordan Holmes                  15
Davaughn Thomas              12
Patrick Reed                        8 (13 rebounds)
Danti Wilson                        6 (6/9 FT)
Jake Dobbins                        4
Zayon Jackson                    3
Yancy Brydson                      1
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Very surprised to see Mays from HJ with only 3 points - like his game & potential.