*Beaumont Central at Nederland Updates*/Central wins 50-40

[asary]

Central is good....not unbeatable but very good

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365116" timestamp="1358611930"]
Hey Ned fans, how badly could we have used another 6'4" big body last night to bang with ToeToe (#24) and take some intensity off from Weisbrod? SMH
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I thought the "savior" was coming this week to save the season for Nederland? Didn't Coach English have a meeting last weekend to "beg" the "savior" to join the team this week?

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[Honest Abe]

I agree. Shooting 32% from the field will not win many games against a team like Central. As the paper mentioned, we had open looks, we just were not making our shots. Plenty of opportunities. Then when we got within 2 points, we threw the ball away in 2 straight possessions and 3 of 4 while the Jags converted on the other end.
Speaking of an effective full court press, please press next game, we will win that game. We turned it over against the Jag press twice while we had 2 of our starting guards out of the game.  When they came back in, we broke it every time.

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1365119" timestamp="1358612437"]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365116#msg1365116 date=1358611930]
Hey Ned fans, how badly could we have used another 6'4" big body last night to bang with ToeToe (#24) and take some intensity off from Weisbrod? SMH
[/quote]


I thought the "savior" was coming this week to save the season for Nederland? Didn't Coach English have a meeting last weekend to "beg" the "savior" to join the team this week?

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[/quote]Haha, right? ;) ::)

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1365114" timestamp="1358611235"]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365107#msg1365107 date=1358610364]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108357.msg1365102#msg1365102 date=1358609627]
There was a HUGE sign on the railing between the court level and upper level. If people would read the HUGE banner indicating where home and visitors were to sit a rope fence and armed guards would not be needed. READ THE SIGNS AND FIND YOUR SEAT ACCORDINGLY. What was so hard to understand about the HUGE banner?
[/quote] Every gym has that.  It's where they 'prefer you to sit.  They don't call in security to force you to sit somewhere.  There's a difference.
[/quote]
Explain the difference
[/quote] No need.  Water under the bridge now.  If I were asked to move, I would have declined as should those few fans that elected to move. 

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1365129" timestamp="1358617394"]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108357.msg1365114#msg1365114 date=1358611235]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365107#msg1365107 date=1358610364]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108357.msg1365102#msg1365102 date=1358609627]
There was a HUGE sign on the railing between the court level and upper level. If people would read the HUGE banner indicating where home and visitors were to sit a rope fence and armed guards would not be needed. READ THE SIGNS AND FIND YOUR SEAT ACCORDINGLY. What was so hard to understand about the HUGE banner?
[/quote] Every gym has that.  It's where they 'prefer you to sit.  They don't call in security to force you to sit somewhere.  There's a difference.
[/quote]
Explain the difference
[/quote] No need.  Water under the bridge now.  If I were asked to move, I would have declined as should those few fans that elected to move. 
[/quote]Why not just respect AND abide by the rules that are set in place? If the speed limit is 55, and you refuse to drive that slow, do authorities not have the right to pull you over and write you a ticket? When you go to a public place, do you look at their rules and just ignore them?

I will repeat this story again: Last year, Central officials made an announcement (exactly as we did last night) asking fans to sit on their respective sides. There was no issue made bc we respected the rules of BISD and Central and moved. You didn't hear anything about this bc we did not make an issue out of it.

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365116" timestamp="1358611930"]
Hey Ned fans, how badly could we have used another 6'4" big body last night to bang with ToeToe (#24) and take some intensity off from Weisbrod? SMH
[/quote] I completely agree.  Maybe even a more stronger broader body.

[understand]

CENTRAL WON AND WILL WIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND MAYBE THE NEXT SIX YEARS and that seating PROBLEM was from the sixties, and what you're not advising everyone is that it started because of coach english dad.The seating PROBLEM started with coach english dad seat being taken by an Ozen student an the student refuse to move when asked to and that student did not take his stadium seat he moved it over  maybe 1-2 ft but coach english dad wanted to sit behind his son bench and i guess he and you guys showed everyone this week that you  can go back in time if needed, but on this DAY and TOMORROW CENTRAL WON.Oh and PLEASE sit where you want when you come to 88 JAG it will not change the outcome of the game.

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365133" timestamp="1358618399"]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365129#msg1365129 date=1358617394]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108357.msg1365114#msg1365114 date=1358611235]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365107#msg1365107 date=1358610364]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108357.msg1365102#msg1365102 date=1358609627]
There was a HUGE sign on the railing between the court level and upper level. If people would read the HUGE banner indicating where home and visitors were to sit a rope fence and armed guards would not be needed. READ THE SIGNS AND FIND YOUR SEAT ACCORDINGLY. What was so hard to understand about the HUGE banner?
[/quote] Every gym has that.  It's where they 'prefer you to sit.  They don't call in security to force you to sit somewhere.  There's a difference.
[/quote]
Explain the difference
[/quote] No need.  Water under the bridge now.  If I were asked to move, I would have declined as should those few fans that elected to move. 
[/quote]Why not just respect AND abide by the rules that are set in place? If the speed limit is 55, and you refuse to drive that slow, do authorities not have the right to pull you over and write you a ticket? When you go to a public place, do you look at their rules and just ignore them?

I will repeat this story again: Last year, Central officials made an announcement (exactly as we did last night) asking fans to sit on their respective sides. There was no issue made bc we respected the rules of BISD and Central and moved. You didn't hear anything about this bc we did not make an issue out of it.
[/quote] I went to EVERY Central game last year and that's FALSE information.  There was No such announcement prior to a game.  Heck, I don't recall there being such an announcement in Nederland as well.  The speed limit comparison is lame.  You Have to follow the law.  It's a must.  At a high school game, you're not FORCED to sit somewhere or where NOT to sit.  Heck using that comparison brings Rosa Parks to mind...

[Yeoj]

The entire seating area across the from the scoring table was ninety eight percent Nederland fans. And you want to cut the side behind the scoring table in half. My question is, does NISD expect the entire Central basketball fan base to sit in that little fourth of gym space? And are they really going to use the Nederland police to enforce that ridiculousness?

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365143" timestamp="1358619949"]
The entire seating area across the from the scoring table was ninety eight percent Nederland fans. And you want to cut the side behind the scoring table in half. My question is, does NISD expect the entire Central basketball fan base to sit in that little fourth of gym space? And are they really going to use the Nederland police to enforce that ridiculousness?
[/quote] True!

[Yeoj]

And by the way, no one took the seats that the Central fans were forced to give up. They remained empty for the duration of the game.

[CThoops]

Wow.. This thread is unbelievable...

Why is race is being brought out? The seating issue shouldn't be an issue at all. I can see both sides to this arguement, but there shouldn't be a problem though if the staff can identify the sign at the doors that says which side the visitors sit on, and which the home sits on. It also shouldn't be a big deal if they ask people to move for that reason. I like to sit wherever I want as well especially in the Nederland gym, but if special rules where made for this game, anticipating a large crowd, then that's how the seating will take place.

As far as the actual reason everyone showed up, like maybe the game, Central is very good and them winning isn't too much of shock, but most people can tell you that Nederland can play with these guys. A few shots here and there and this could have gone a different way. Some players for Nederland need to really be more aggressive on offense to help out. All in all, it's not the end of the world for Nederland. The Beaumont school made their statement that they are tired of Nederland and wanted to win these key games. How Nederland responds is going to be big and deciding if they want to win district again.

As far as the big body situation, it would sure be a luxury to have other players with some size, but that simply isn't the case this year. You only work with what you are given, so Weisbrod is called on to have a huge role of post defense, then carry the team offensively.

Lets get ready for the rematches and take care of business. Go dogs!

[Honest Abe]

Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved.

Rules are rules, just follow them.

I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::)

[Yeoj]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365149" timestamp="1358621781"]
Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved.

Rules are rules, just follow them.

I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::)
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Race card? Racism and being discriminated against is not a game! I know you would know nothing of this and therefore can easily make light of the subject. There's no card being played. SMH go head and lock this moderators cause some people's ignorance is starting to show!

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365152" timestamp="1358622229"]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365149#msg1365149 date=1358621781]
Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved.

Rules are rules, just follow them.

I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::)
[/quote]
Race card? Racism and being discriminated against is not a game! I know you would know nothing of this and therefore can easily make light of the subject. There's no card being played. SMH go head and lock this moderators cause some people's ignorance is starting to show!
[/quote]u know nothing about me or my race sir. If you want to speak of ignorance, you just demonstrated that you believe discrimination only goes in one direction. It shows YOUR ignorance sir.

[Yeoj]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365153" timestamp="1358622440"]
[quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108357.msg1365152#msg1365152 date=1358622229]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365149#msg1365149 date=1358621781]
Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved.

Rules are rules, just follow them.

I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::)
[/quote]
Race card? Racism and being discriminated against is not a game! I know you would know nothing of this and therefore can easily make light of the subject. There's no card being played. SMH go head and lock this moderators cause some people's ignorance is starting to show!
[/quote]u know nothing about me or my race sir. If you want to speak of ignorance, you just demonstrated that you believe discrimination only goes in one direction. It shows YOUR ignorance sir.
[/quote]
Seems like you may have returned the favor my ignorant friend. Lol

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365149" timestamp="1358621781"]
Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved.

Rules are rules, just follow them.

I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::)
[/quote] I said it brings Rosa Parks to mind.  Meaning making someone move.  I didn't bring race into it.  Didn't accuse anyone from Nederland of being a racist...

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365152" timestamp="1358622229"]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365149#msg1365149 date=1358621781]
Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved.

Rules are rules, just follow them.

I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::)
[/quote]
Race card? Racism and being discriminated against is not a game! I know you would know nothing of this and therefore can easily make light of the subject. There's no card being played. SMH go head and lock this moderators cause some people's ignorance is starting to show!
[/quote]u know nothing about me or my race sir. If you want to speak of ignorance, you just demonstrated that you believe discrimination only goes in one direction. It shows YOUR ignorance sir.

[Honest Abe]

For the record, there is 1/8 of the gym that is reserved for the Ned fans, 1/8th reserved for the visiting fans. The remaining 6/8 (or 3/4) is open seating for all. Does that seem like extreme rules for anyone to follow? Does that sound racists or discriminatory to anyone? Did we force our non-white fans to sit in the Central section? Think about it!

[Honest Abe]

BTW-I watched a Nederland fan get kicked out of a gym two years ago in the Barber's Hill tourney for questioning a call made by a ref. i will mention (only to make my point) that the ref was black. Funny, bc not ONE single Ned fan suggested that he was removed from his seat bc of race.
Guess who escorted him out? Police!! Was it necessary in that situation? I don't think so bc the fan left without an incident, but the policies set forth in that gym insisted on security in order to implement that policy.
Again, why is it so difficult to respect the rules set forth by Nederland admin? ???

[asary]

Some simply think rules were made for others to follow but not them....it is that simple

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365155" timestamp="1358622747"]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365153#msg1365153 date=1358622440]
[quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108357.msg1365152#msg1365152 date=1358622229]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365149#msg1365149 date=1358621781]
Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved.

Rules are rules, just follow them.

I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::)
[/quote]
Race card? Racism and being discriminated against is not a game! I know you would know nothing of this and therefore can easily make light of the subject. There's no card being played. SMH go head and lock this moderators cause some people's ignorance is starting to show!
[/quote]u know nothing about me or my race sir. If you want to speak of ignorance, you just demonstrated that you believe discrimination only goes in one direction. It shows YOUR ignorance sir.
[/quote]
Seems like you may have returned the favor my ignorant friend. Lol
[/quote]
discriminate[ dih-skrim-uh-neyt; dih-skrim-uh-nit ]
verb (used without object)
1. to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality.

Hmmm?? I don't see where it says it only applies to a single group of people. It seems that it applies to any group.

ignorance

noun
1. the state or fact of being ignorant lack of knowledge, information, etc.

[AggiesAreWe]

An example of how some gyms are set up for visitor and home fans. Last night at WO-S, they have four sections of bleachers (1 section behind the WO-S bench, 1 behind the visitor bench, other two sections are directly across the floor from the aforementioned sections). The home fans (WO-S) get 3 of those sections. (behind home bench, and both sections across the floor). Visitors get the section behind the visiting team bench. That's it. Silsbee fans were regulated to sit in that section and that section only. Those are the rules of that gym. Is it fair? That's debatable but it is still the rules of that particular gym.

Every gym I have been to have designated seating areas for home and visitors. There are usually signs directing the fans. If not, then law enforcement directs or school admins direct. Pretty simple to me.

Based on my age and what I do, I think I have seen my share of gyms in my lifetime, more than most on this site. ;)

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1365156" timestamp="1358622920"]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365149#msg1365149 date=1358621781]
Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved.

Rules are rules, just follow them.

I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::)
[/quote] I said it brings Rosa Parks to mind.  Meaning making someone move.  I didn't bring race into it.  Didn't accuse anyone from Nederland of being a racist...


[/quote]You implied race, which is no different.