What's up with Nederland!?!

[Baller 93]

I just wanna know what some of y'all think are the problems why Nederland isn't doing as good as everybody thought?!

[Yeoj]

Nothing is really wrong with the Bulldogs. They are simply just the third best team in 20-4A. It's actually quite obvious.

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365132" timestamp="1358618343"]
Nothing is really wrong with the Bulldogs. They are simply just the third best team in 20-4A. It's actually quite obvious.
[/quote] Ouch! :o :o

[Baller 93]

I know this group of kids and they don't seem to be playing with the fire and teamwork like n the past. Don't get me wrong Ozen and Central are talented but I expected Nederland to at least battle at home and not go into the half down by double digits both times. That's just not what they have shown n the past.

[stevenash]

Perhaps that is not a permanent situation.  The Miami heat recently lost 5 out of 8 games.  Something hardly to be expected.

[Dick Vitale]

Or it could be that they are actually the 3rd best team in that district....

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1365261" timestamp="1358650512"]
Or it could be that they are actually the 3rd best team in that district....
[/quote]


;)

[scapegoat]

Lack of Bigs!Weisbrod gets in foul trouble and has to play cautious.I would hate to see what the rebound totals would look like with out him.You can get away with a little lower shooting percentage if you are getting more boards!

[stevenash]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1365261" timestamp="1358650512"]
Or it could be that they are actually the 3rd best team in that district....
[/quote]

We will know for sure when the district play is completed and , if not then, for sure if and when the district members are eliminated in the playoffs

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1365160" timestamp="1358623545"]
[quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108406.msg1365132#msg1365132 date=1358618343]
Nothing is really wrong with the Bulldogs. They are simply just the third best team in 20-4A. It's actually quite obvious.
[/quote] Ouch! :o :o
[/quote] ;)

[cooligan]

As the great Jack Nicholson wants said ---- You want the truth? You can't handle the truth. I will post on this subject later. I am still trying to shorten my list of problems so I don't offend all the homers  :'(

[ram0524]

[quote name="Baller 93" post="1365240" timestamp="1358644148"]
I know this group of kids and they don't seem to be playing with the fire and teamwork like n the past. Don't get me wrong Ozen and Central are talented but I expected [b]Nederland to at least battle at home [/b]and not go into the half down by double digits both times. That's just not what they have shown n the past.
[/quote]

We fought back against Central and was with them till mid 4th when we just couldn't hit, and Cent couldn't miss.

[asary]

[quote name="85' HUSKER" post="1365287" timestamp="1358655790"]
As the great Jack Nicholson wants said ---- You want the truth? You can't handle the truth. I will post on this subject later. I am still trying to shorten my list of problems so I don't offend all the homers  :'(
[/quote]
Just curious...are you a Ned fan or just a Ned football fan  ::)

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="85' HUSKER" post="1365287" timestamp="1358655790"]
As the great Jack Nicholson wants said ---- You want the truth? You can't handle the truth. I will post on this subject later. I am still trying to shorten my list of problems so I don't offend all the homers  :'(
[/quote] I can't wait to see your list.

[SFA85]

A broke clock is right twice a day. 

[BIG SHOW]

I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen!

Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury.

[Yeoj]

[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1365344" timestamp="1358706957"]
I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen!

Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury.
[/quote]
Ozen is one of the smallest schools in 20-4a according to enrollment numbers. Nederland is one of the larger schools in the district. This post is meaningless!

[mytwocents-28]

[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1365344" timestamp="1358706957"]
I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen!

Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury.
[/quote]
Well said.  +1

[asary]

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365345" timestamp="1358707223"]
[quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957]
I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen!

Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury.
[/quote]
Ozen is one of the smallest schools in 20-4a according to enrollment numbers. Nederland is one of the larger schools in the district. This post is meaningless!
[/quote]
You need to reread Big Show's post. Obviously you didn't understand it

[BIG SHOW]

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365345" timestamp="1358707223"]
[quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957]
I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen!

Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury.
[/quote]
Ozen is one of the smallest schools in 20-4a according to enrollment numbers. Nederland is one of the larger schools in the district. This post is meaningless!
[/quote]
I am willing to bet that Ozen has kids right now "if you went by zone"  from Central and WB living zone areas. Who knows maybe even some Fannett boys. Right Dove? LOL 

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1365344" timestamp="1358706957"]
I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen!

Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury.
[/quote]Using your example, Worthing High , Davis, Sterling, YEP, etc all should have good basketball programs in Houston because of the population advantage, but they don't.  #2, there isn't a school in this area who can compete in 5-A playoffs against Houston schools. But 4-A is wide open- no dominant teams.

[BIG SHOW]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1365388" timestamp="1358719309"]
[quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957]
I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen!

Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury.
[/quote]Using your example, Worthing High , Davis, Sterling, YEP, etc all should have good basketball programs in Houston because of the population advantage, but they don't.  #2, there isn't a school in this area who can compete in 5-A playoffs against Houston schools. But 4-A is wide open- no dominant teams.
[/quote]
Do those schools have open enrollment? Sure there is! Ozen and Central would compete just fine in 5-A.  If i am not mistaking but Ozen has won some state titles in 4-A already in there short school history.  I know it will never happen but i think both schools belong in 5-A.

[BLUEDOVE3]

Westbrook and Memorial can barely win their district and won't get deep into 5-A playoffs. But they do fine playing in this area. It is what it is!!! Bush, Travis, Clear Lake area schools, etc......... tough.

[Yeoj]

[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1365395" timestamp="1358720854"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108406.msg1365388#msg1365388 date=1358719309]
[quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957]
I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen!

Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury.
[/quote]Using your example, Worthing High , Davis, Sterling, YEP, etc all should have good basketball programs in Houston because of the population advantage, but they don't.  #2, there isn't a school in this area who can compete in 5-A playoffs against Houston schools. But 4-A is wide open- no dominant teams.
[/quote]
Do those schools have open enrollment? Sure there is! Ozen and Central would compete just fine in 5-A.  If i am not mistaking but Ozen has won some state titles in 4-A already in there short school history.  I know it will never happen but i think both schools belong in 5-A.
[/quote]
So you want Ozen with its 1200 students and Central with its 1600 students to compete 5A? Your whole thought pattern is flawed. Once again meaningless...

[BLUEDOVE3]

Here is another difference I've seen between 4-A and 5-A teams in Houston vs Beaumont. Size and skill level of the bigs are  a plus in Houston, plus their basketball IQ.