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I heard coach Wyatt from Texas paid Sharp a visit the other day. I guess they thought he'd make a good safety, lol.
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Lol, I heard that too. I think they want him as a WR,
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Its kind of a shame, call me crazy but I think Sharp would beat out Heard and Swoopes for the starting Qb position for the horns.
[/quote] Beat out J. Heard? Yeah, you're crazy.  ;)  J. Heard (if Ash has a hell of a year and leaves early) will be the starter in 2014 IMO. I think he's a better dynamic at QB right now than Swoopes and Ash from UT.
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Nothing against Heard, but he's not like you think. Heard is a runner, I saw him at a camp. Right now the kid [b]Brandon Harris is the best 2014 QB [/b]IMO
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I agree
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I heard coach Wyatt from Texas paid Sharp a visit the other day. I guess they thought he'd make a good safety, lol.
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Lol, I heard that too. I think they want him as a WR,
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Its kind of a shame, call me crazy but I think Sharp would beat out Heard and Swoopes for the starting Qb position for the horns.
[/quote] Beat out J. Heard? Yeah, you're crazy.  ;)  J. Heard (if Ash has a hell of a year and leaves early) will be the starter in 2014 IMO. I think he's a better dynamic at QB right now than Swoopes and Ash from UT.
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I thought you might be skeptical, honestly it might just be rose colored glasses on my part. This coming from a dedicated Texas fan, Ash will start through 2014 because it is highly unlikely he would leave to the nfl after his junior year even if he put up impressive stats. Ash doesnt have the skill set that most nfl teams look at and even if he is really good I doubt he gets better than a 3rd round grade even after his senior year.

Both Sharp and Heard look about the same physically, about the same weight with the former about a half inch to an inch taller and have slender frames that they would both fill out. On the athleticism side, Heard is in the high 4.4's in the forty and Sharp is in the low 4.5's, though Heard is a more polished ball carrier. Where I think Sharp wins is his composure and patience in waiting for his receivers to get open down field, where Heard looks like he gives up on the play really quickly and takes off for the first down (Admittedly, he is really good at that, so I don't criticize that too much). Also, Heard benefited quite a bit in 2011 and 2012 from excellent blocking, which Sharp really hasn't had quite the same luxury, so I think Sharp has more experience in making something out of a broken play and with his arm more often than his legs. Additionally, Sharp's passes are noticeably more accurate than Heard's from what I've seen of both of them.

Look at it this way, in 2015, both Heard and Sharp are going into their RS freshman year and both go into spring practice on relatively equal standing, with Swoopes being the front runner after being Ash's backup the year before. There is a strong chance that Swoopes won't improve his arm enough by then, making Heard/Sharp a more attractive option after showing what they can do in the spring scrimmage. The coaching staff will probably call it a close race between the two for the start, but ultimately Sharp will prove that he is a better fit to run Applewhite's offense.

Again, I could be extremely biased here and just really want to see Sharp in burnt orange. Both those guys have really high potential, but I think if Sharp ties up the loose ends he will be untouchable.
[/quote]I could see that only if UT has a HC [u]not named[/u] Mack Brown.  ;) (you know what im getting at lol)
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Haha, even if they go 3-9 next year I bet Mack is still HC the year after.
[/quote] If he has a bad year [b]without[/b] having key injuries he will be fired, which means more recruits for A&M, Baylor and Tech IMO.
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I honestly doubt that Mack will ever be fired, the year he isnt coach at Texas will be the year he retires. I think Applewhite takes over the program then.
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I heard coach Wyatt from Texas paid Sharp a visit the other day. I guess they thought he'd make a good safety, lol.
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Lol, I heard that too. I think they want him as a WR,
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Its kind of a shame, call me crazy but I think Sharp would beat out Heard and Swoopes for the starting Qb position for the horns.
[/quote] Beat out J. Heard? Yeah, you're crazy.  ;)  J. Heard (if Ash has a hell of a year and leaves early) will be the starter in 2014 IMO. I think he's a better dynamic at QB right now than Swoopes and Ash from UT.
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I thought you might be skeptical, honestly it might just be rose colored glasses on my part. This coming from a dedicated Texas fan, Ash will start through 2014 because it is highly unlikely he would leave to the nfl after his junior year even if he put up impressive stats. Ash doesnt have the skill set that most nfl teams look at and even if he is really good I doubt he gets better than a 3rd round grade even after his senior year.

Both Sharp and Heard look about the same physically, about the same weight with the former about a half inch to an inch taller and have slender frames that they would both fill out. On the athleticism side, Heard is in the high 4.4's in the forty and Sharp is in the low 4.5's, though Heard is a more polished ball carrier. Where I think Sharp wins is his composure and patience in waiting for his receivers to get open down field, where Heard looks like he gives up on the play really quickly and takes off for the first down (Admittedly, he is really good at that, so I don't criticize that too much). Also, Heard benefited quite a bit in 2011 and 2012 from excellent blocking, which Sharp really hasn't had quite the same luxury, so I think Sharp has more experience in making something out of a broken play and with his arm more often than his legs. Additionally, Sharp's passes are noticeably more accurate than Heard's from what I've seen of both of them.

Look at it this way, in 2015, both Heard and Sharp are going into their RS freshman year and both go into spring practice on relatively equal standing, with Swoopes being the front runner after being Ash's backup the year before. There is a strong chance that Swoopes won't improve his arm enough by then, making Heard/Sharp a more attractive option after showing what they can do in the spring scrimmage. The coaching staff will probably call it a close race between the two for the start, but ultimately Sharp will prove that he is a better fit to run Applewhite's offense.

Again, I could be extremely biased here and just really want to see Sharp in burnt orange. Both those guys have really high potential, but I think if Sharp ties up the loose ends he will be untouchable.
[/quote]The job is Swoopes to lose imo. 6-5 and almost 250 already and was mowing people in the spring game even though he should still be in high school. Still a raw passer like Heard is but other than Foster Sawyer and JT Barrett  I haven't seen a better prospect come out of the state in the last three years. Texas only offers who they feel is the best qb in the state that year and Sharp isn't quite there.
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I heard coach Wyatt from Texas paid Sharp a visit the other day. I guess they thought he'd make a good safety, lol.
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Lol, I heard that too. I think they want him as a WR,
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Its kind of a shame, call me crazy but I think Sharp would beat out Heard and Swoopes for the starting Qb position for the horns.
[/quote] Beat out J. Heard? Yeah, you're crazy.  ;)  J. Heard (if Ash has a hell of a year and leaves early) will be the starter in 2014 IMO. I think he's a better dynamic at QB right now than Swoopes and Ash from UT.
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I thought you might be skeptical, honestly it might just be rose colored glasses on my part. This coming from a dedicated Texas fan, Ash will start through 2014 because it is highly unlikely he would leave to the nfl after his junior year even if he put up impressive stats. Ash doesnt have the skill set that most nfl teams look at and even if he is really good I doubt he gets better than a 3rd round grade even after his senior year.

Both Sharp and Heard look about the same physically, about the same weight with the former about a half inch to an inch taller and have slender frames that they would both fill out. On the athleticism side, Heard is in the high 4.4's in the forty and Sharp is in the low 4.5's, though Heard is a more polished ball carrier. Where I think Sharp wins is his composure and patience in waiting for his receivers to get open down field, where Heard looks like he gives up on the play really quickly and takes off for the first down (Admittedly, he is really good at that, so I don't criticize that too much). Also, Heard benefited quite a bit in 2011 and 2012 from excellent blocking, which Sharp really hasn't had quite the same luxury, so I think Sharp has more experience in making something out of a broken play and with his arm more often than his legs. Additionally, Sharp's passes are noticeably more accurate than Heard's from what I've seen of both of them.

Look at it this way, in 2015, both Heard and Sharp are going into their RS freshman year and both go into spring practice on relatively equal standing, with Swoopes being the front runner after being Ash's backup the year before. There is a strong chance that Swoopes won't improve his arm enough by then, making Heard/Sharp a more attractive option after showing what they can do in the spring scrimmage. The coaching staff will probably call it a close race between the two for the start, but ultimately Sharp will prove that he is a better fit to run Applewhite's offense.

Again, I could be extremely biased here and just really want to see Sharp in burnt orange. Both those guys have really high potential, but I think if Sharp ties up the loose ends he will be untouchable.
[/quote]The job is Swoopes to lose imo. 6-5 and almost 250 already and was mowing people in the spring game even though he should still be in high school. Still a raw passer like Heard is but other than Foster Sawyer and JT Barrett  I haven't seen a better prospect come out of the state in the last three years. Texas only offers who they feel is the best qb in the state that year and Sharp isn't quite there.
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You are absolutely right Cougar14, Texas passed up JOHNNY MANZIEL because they offer who they feel is the best QB, and ”look at him now”

I'm not saying they should pick up Sharp, but they passed up Brandon Harris and he is polished. Heard can run the ball..
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Unfortunately Texas has recently obtained the mentality that they can't develop talent and they have to get someone who they think is ready for the next level coming out of hs. Or maybe that's just media spin, I can't really tell. They have had some bad luck recently with recruiting classes just not panning out, such as the notorious class of 2009.

But to get back on topic, I think Sharp should go where they give him a legit shot at Qb, and I have a feeling that Baylor as well as a few Pac-12 schools would.
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I heard coach Wyatt from Texas paid Sharp a visit the other day. I guess they thought he'd make a good safety, lol.
[/quote]

Lol, I heard that too. I think they want him as a WR,
[/quote]
Its kind of a shame, call me crazy but I think Sharp would beat out Heard and Swoopes for the starting Qb position for the horns.
[/quote] Beat out J. Heard? Yeah, you're crazy.  ;)  J. Heard (if Ash has a hell of a year and leaves early) will be the starter in 2014 IMO. I think he's a better dynamic at QB right now than Swoopes and Ash from UT.
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I thought you might be skeptical, honestly it might just be rose colored glasses on my part. This coming from a dedicated Texas fan, Ash will start through 2014 because it is highly unlikely he would leave to the nfl after his junior year even if he put up impressive stats. Ash doesnt have the skill set that most nfl teams look at and even if he is really good I doubt he gets better than a 3rd round grade even after his senior year.

Both Sharp and Heard look about the same physically, about the same weight with the former about a half inch to an inch taller and have slender frames that they would both fill out. On the athleticism side, Heard is in the high 4.4's in the forty and Sharp is in the low 4.5's, though Heard is a more polished ball carrier. Where I think Sharp wins is his composure and patience in waiting for his receivers to get open down field, where Heard looks like he gives up on the play really quickly and takes off for the first down (Admittedly, he is really good at that, so I don't criticize that too much). Also, Heard benefited quite a bit in 2011 and 2012 from excellent blocking, which Sharp really hasn't had quite the same luxury, so I think Sharp has more experience in making something out of a broken play and with his arm more often than his legs. Additionally, Sharp's passes are noticeably more accurate than Heard's from what I've seen of both of them.

Look at it this way, in 2015, both Heard and Sharp are going into their RS freshman year and both go into spring practice on relatively equal standing, with Swoopes being the front runner after being Ash's backup the year before. There is a strong chance that Swoopes won't improve his arm enough by then, making Heard/Sharp a more attractive option after showing what they can do in the spring scrimmage. The coaching staff will probably call it a close race between the two for the start, but ultimately Sharp will prove that he is a better fit to run Applewhite's offense.

Again, I could be extremely biased here and just really want to see Sharp in burnt orange. Both those guys have really high potential, but I think if Sharp ties up the loose ends he will be untouchable.
[/quote]The job is Swoopes to lose imo. 6-5 and almost 250 already and was mowing people in the spring game even though he should still be in high school. Still a raw passer like Heard is but other than Foster Sawyer and JT Barrett  I haven't seen a better prospect come out of the state in the last three years. Texas only offers who they feel is the best qb in the state that year and Sharp isn't quite there.
[/quote]

You are absolutely right Cougar14, Texas passed up JOHNNY MANZIEL because they offer who they feel is the best QB, and ”look at him now”

I'm not saying they should pick up Sharp, but they passed up Brandon Harris and he is polished. Heard can run the ball..
[/quote]Brandon Harris is from louisiana, that's why they didn't offer him. JF is good but it's Sumlin's offense that's letting him shine, that's why they have guys like Bridgewater and Boyd ahead of him right now.
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I heard coach Wyatt from Texas paid Sharp a visit the other day. I guess they thought he'd make a good safety, lol.
[/quote]

Lol, I heard that too. I think they want him as a WR,
[/quote]
Its kind of a shame, call me crazy but I think Sharp would beat out Heard and Swoopes for the starting Qb position for the horns.
[/quote] Beat out J. Heard? Yeah, you're crazy.  ;)  J. Heard (if Ash has a hell of a year and leaves early) will be the starter in 2014 IMO. I think he's a better dynamic at QB right now than Swoopes and Ash from UT.
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I thought you might be skeptical, honestly it might just be rose colored glasses on my part. This coming from a dedicated Texas fan, Ash will start through 2014 because it is highly unlikely he would leave to the nfl after his junior year even if he put up impressive stats. Ash doesnt have the skill set that most nfl teams look at and even if he is really good I doubt he gets better than a 3rd round grade even after his senior year.

Both Sharp and Heard look about the same physically, about the same weight with the former about a half inch to an inch taller and have slender frames that they would both fill out. On the athleticism side, Heard is in the high 4.4's in the forty and Sharp is in the low 4.5's, though Heard is a more polished ball carrier. Where I think Sharp wins is his composure and patience in waiting for his receivers to get open down field, where Heard looks like he gives up on the play really quickly and takes off for the first down (Admittedly, he is really good at that, so I don't criticize that too much). Also, Heard benefited quite a bit in 2011 and 2012 from excellent blocking, which Sharp really hasn't had quite the same luxury, so I think Sharp has more experience in making something out of a broken play and with his arm more often than his legs. Additionally, Sharp's passes are noticeably more accurate than Heard's from what I've seen of both of them.

Look at it this way, in 2015, both Heard and Sharp are going into their RS freshman year and both go into spring practice on relatively equal standing, with Swoopes being the front runner after being Ash's backup the year before. There is a strong chance that Swoopes won't improve his arm enough by then, making Heard/Sharp a more attractive option after showing what they can do in the spring scrimmage. The coaching staff will probably call it a close race between the two for the start, but ultimately Sharp will prove that he is a better fit to run Applewhite's offense.

Again, I could be extremely biased here and just really want to see Sharp in burnt orange. Both those guys have really high potential, but I think if Sharp ties up the loose ends he will be untouchable.
[/quote]The job is Swoopes to lose imo. 6-5 and almost 250 already and was mowing people in the spring game even though he should still be in high school. Still a raw passer like Heard is but other than Foster Sawyer and JT Barrett  I haven't seen a better prospect come out of the state in the last three years. Texas only offers who they feel is the best qb in the state that year and Sharp isn't quite there.
[/quote]

You are absolutely right Cougar14, Texas passed up JOHNNY MANZIEL because they offer who they feel is the best QB, and ”look at him now”

I'm not saying they should pick up Sharp, but they passed up Brandon Harris and he is polished. Heard can run the ball..
[/quote]Brandon Harris is from louisiana, that's why they didn't offer him. JF is good but it's Sumlin's offense that's letting him shine, that's why they have guys like Bridgewater and Boyd ahead of him right now.
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It don't matter if he's from Louisiana or not, Brandon Harris is still better than Heard.....

And Johnny is better than Ash....nobody is better than Bridewater and Boyd

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According to 247 sports Crosby ILB Chase Nix is on the verge of a University of Nevada offer. The report said he looked impressive at the 7 on 7 this past weekend and measured at 6-2 220lbs. If he does get an offer Crosby could potentially have 5 D1 recruits. I say 5 because I believe if Cullen Lee stays healthy he will get a D1 scholarship at receiver. He was the most impressive receiver to me besides the kid from Kincaid, plus it's hard to pass on a kid that's already about 6-3 and 200lbs.
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The twins also said they would decommit from Rice and commit to Purdue if they offered a dual ride. They said they like the engineering school. . . . . or maybe they would just rather play Ohio St., Michigan, Nebraska, and Notre Dame.
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The twins also said they would decommit from Rice and commit to Purdue if they offered a dual ride. They said they like the engineering school. . . . . or maybe they would just rather play[b] Ohio St., Michigan, Nebraska, and Notre Dame.[/b]
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with their talent playing these teams would look good on their resume' for sure, if they have the want for the NFL....
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The twins also said they would decommit from Rice and commit to Purdue if they offered a dual ride. They said they like the engineering school. . . . . or maybe they would just rather play Ohio St., Michigan, Nebraska, and Notre Dame.
[/quote] I forgot all about Purdue. Dont they run a similar offense like Crosby?
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The twins also said they would decommit from Rice and commit to Purdue if they offered a dual ride. They said they like the engineering school. . . . . or maybe they would just rather play Ohio St., Michigan, Nebraska, and Notre Dame.
[/quote] I forgot all about Purdue. Dont they run a similar offense like Crosby?
[/quote]They run the same basic sets, Purdue throws it a lot more though. A pass catching running back and a slot receiver could be exactly what they need. They want to go to a "smart" school which is why I'm kind of surprised Northwestern didn't offer. I know they were all over Austin but maybe Aston wasn't their cup of tea?
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Devlin Isadore, former NC Porter qb and 2013 projected starter at Ike picks up his first offer from SMU without playing a game at his new school.

I believe he made the move for athletic purposes which is fine with me. I don't think he gets that offer if he stays at Porter. That's a six figure private school scholarship at SMU so congrats Devlin and his family. 
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Devlin Isadore, former NC Porter qb and 2013 projected starter at Ike picks up his first offer from SMU offer without playing a game at his new school.

I believe he made the move for athletic purposes which is fine with me. I don't think he gets that offer if he stays at Porter. That's a six figure private school scholarship at SMU so congrats Devlin and his family.
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I have no idea what the circumstances are regarding his transfer so I'm not going to make any fuss over it, but hypothetically wouldn't you prefer if there were other reasons he had to transfer other than athletic? I mean its kind of in bad taste to just transfer for athletic purposes even if you have a valid excuse. I guess you could make the argument if he had stayed at porter he wouldn't have likely got offered from a good college, and if he struggles as a student that scholarship could open up a window of opportunity for future success I suppose. Idk, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth generally because I take education really seriously.
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[quote name="cougar14" post="1408771" timestamp="1369771429"]
I see Patrick Reed of Silsbee, (qb), has picked up two offers from Lamar and Texas State. Good job by him.

What position did Tech offer Peterson to play? Looks like he's going to move inside on the next level.
[/quote]Texas State is stocking up on good QBs.
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I see Patrick Reed of Silsbee, (qb), has picked up two offers from Lamar and Texas State. Good job by him.

What position did Tech offer Peterson to play? Looks like he's going to move inside on the next level.
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I guess somewhere on the line, he plays offensive lineman
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I see Patrick Reed of Silsbee, (qb), has picked up two offers from Lamar and Texas State. Good job by him.

What position did Tech offer Peterson to play? Looks like he's going to move inside on the next level.
[/quote]Texas State is stocking up on good QBs.
[/quote]I doubt he plays qb in college, especially at an FBS school. KD Baker from Navasota threw for over 4400 yards and he's even being recruited as an athlete.
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All the summer creek players... lol  ::)
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Why is that funny? Yes it is all the Summer Creek and Crosby players
[/quote]What won't be funny is when Crosby plays SC and there's about 10 D1 players on the field. ;)
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