UIL Rule Changes

[Grayghost]

The UIL Legislative Council , with the approval of the Commissioner of Education, has approved the following changes to the Constitution and Contest Rules and/or UIL Policies and Procedures.  Please refer to this link for further information and explanation of the changes:
http://www.uiltexas.org/files/policy/ccr-rule-changes-2013-2014.pdf

[BLUEDOVE3]

Two State champs in each conference???? Did I read that correctly? OMG!!

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1379668" timestamp="1361901807"]
Two State champs in each conference???? Did I read that correctly? OMG!!
[/quote]It's already that way in FB for 5A, 4A, and 3A.

[Dick Vitale]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1379668" timestamp="1361901807"]
Two State champs in each conference???? Did I read that correctly? OMG!!
[/quote]
If that happens they may as well play UIL games at the local YMCA's! They already allow way too many teams in the playoffs, and we all know who they did that for.... ::) ::)

[catfever]

The two state champs is for football only and it has been that way for a number of years. The difference comes with the big school/small school districts for 3A. Normally you go big school small school once you get in the playoffs. Now schools with similar enrollment a will be in a district together. Once again, these new districts are for football only. Basketball and baseball districts will not be based on enrollment. Now 4 teams in the playoffs will effect basketball and baseball next year.

[Honest Abe]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1379727" timestamp="1361907984"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109819.msg1379668#msg1379668 date=1361901807]
Two State champs in each conference???? Did I read that correctly? OMG!!
[/quote]
If that happens they may as well play UIL games at the local YMCA's! They already allow way too many teams in the playoffs, and we all know who they did that for.... ::) ::)
[/quote]Who would that be DV?

[Dick Vitale]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1379731" timestamp="1361908304"]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109819.msg1379727#msg1379727 date=1361907984]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109819.msg1379668#msg1379668 date=1361901807]
Two State champs in each conference???? Did I read that correctly? OMG!!
[/quote]
If that happens they may as well play UIL games at the local YMCA's! They already allow way too many teams in the playoffs, and we all know who they did that for.... ::) ::)
[/quote]Who would that be DV?
[/quote]
Come on man...That 4th place playoff spot was designed SPECIFICALLY for the PNG's, the Orangefield's, the Bridge City's, and the LCM's of the world...The UIL was sick of seeing the same "inner city" schools in the playoffs and Johnny Suburb had to only watch...Now...EVERYBODY gets a ribbon! (in the playoffs) ::) ::) ::) Dove is right...Its WATERED DOWN the playoffs in football and basketball...How many 4th place teams WON the region? ZERO. Its just another oppurtunity for the schools to purchase shirts that say "PLAYOFFS" ::) ::)...Sickening... >:(

[uandme08]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1379735" timestamp="1361908632"]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109819.msg1379731#msg1379731 date=1361908304]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109819.msg1379727#msg1379727 date=1361907984]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109819.msg1379668#msg1379668 date=1361901807]
Two State champs in each conference???? Did I read that correctly? OMG!!
[/quote]
If that happens they may as well play UIL games at the local YMCA's! They already allow way too many teams in the playoffs, and we all know who they did that for.... ::) ::)
[/quote]Who would that be DV?
[/quote]
Come on man...That 4th place playoff spot was designed SPECIFICALLY for the PNG's, the Orangefield's, the Bridge City's, and the LCM's of the world...The UIL was sick of seeing the same "inner city" schools in the playoffs and Johnny Suburb had to only watch...Now...EVERYBODY gets a ribbon! (in the playoffs) ::) ::) ::) Dove is right...Its WATERED DOWN the playoffs in football and basketball...How many 4th place teams WON the region? ZERO. Its just another oppurtunity for the schools to purchase shirts that say "PLAYOFFS" ::) ::)...Sickening... >:(
[/quote]
I have very bad memory....though this isn't the football thread - was Ozen the 3rd or 4th spot last year and went how far? Trust me I know they weren't named State Champs but....

[stevenash]

[quote name="uandme08" post="1379754" timestamp="1361909575"]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109819.msg1379735#msg1379735 date=1361908632]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109819.msg1379731#msg1379731 date=1361908304]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109819.msg1379727#msg1379727 date=1361907984]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109819.msg1379668#msg1379668 date=1361901807]
Two State champs in each conference???? Did I read that correctly? OMG!!
[/quote]
If that happens they may as well play UIL games at the local YMCA's! They already allow way too many teams in the playoffs, and we all know who they did that for.... ::) ::)
[/quote]Who would that be DV?
[/quote]
Come on man...That 4th place playoff spot was designed SPECIFICALLY for the PNG's, the Orangefield's, the Bridge City's, and the LCM's of the world...The UIL was sick of seeing the same "inner city" schools in the playoffs and Johnny Suburb had to only watch...Now...EVERYBODY gets a ribbon! (in the playoffs) ::) ::) ::) Dove is right...Its WATERED DOWN the playoffs in football and basketball...How many 4th place teams WON the region? ZERO. Its just another oppurtunity for the schools to purchase shirts that say "PLAYOFFS" ::) ::)...Sickening... >:(
[/quote]
I have very bad memory....though this isn't the football thread - was Ozen the 3rd or 4th spot last year and went how far? Trust me I know they weren't named State Champs but....
[/quote]

;D

Last season, the Celtics finished fourth and yet had a 3-2 lead on the Heat in the Eastern Conference finals.

[Dick Vitale]

[quote name="uandme08" post="1379754" timestamp="1361909575"]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109819.msg1379735#msg1379735 date=1361908632]
[quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109819.msg1379731#msg1379731 date=1361908304]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109819.msg1379727#msg1379727 date=1361907984]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109819.msg1379668#msg1379668 date=1361901807]
Two State champs in each conference???? Did I read that correctly? OMG!!
[/quote]
If that happens they may as well play UIL games at the local YMCA's! They already allow way too many teams in the playoffs, and we all know who they did that for.... ::) ::)
[/quote]Who would that be DV?
[/quote]
Come on man...That 4th place playoff spot was designed SPECIFICALLY for the PNG's, the Orangefield's, the Bridge City's, and the LCM's of the world...The UIL was sick of seeing the same "inner city" schools in the playoffs and Johnny Suburb had to only watch...Now...EVERYBODY gets a ribbon! (in the playoffs) ::) ::) ::) Dove is right...Its WATERED DOWN the playoffs in football and basketball...How many 4th place teams WON the region? ZERO. Its just another oppurtunity for the schools to purchase shirts that say "PLAYOFFS" ::) ::)...Sickening... >:(
[/quote]
I have very bad memory....though this isn't the football thread - was Ozen the 3rd or 4th spot last year and went how far? Trust me I know they weren't named State Champs but....
[/quote]
Ozen finished in 3rd, but I was specifically talking about in basketball with that part...And I believed I said FOURTH place... ::) ::)

[Honest Abe]

Trust me, I'm the last guy who wants to give everyone a blue ribbon. I think 4 is too many. When I was in school, only 2 went. Back then, WOS won district/state in FB nearly every year and Lincoln did the same in Bball. That meant only one other district teams plays in post season. There was always at least one good team left out. I support 3 teams advancing. 

[BLUEDOVE3]

Amen!

[BH85]

It also reduces the number of tournaments to 2 which will cause some hits to many of the local tournaments.

[86hawk]

just waters down the importance of district play.  "back in the day" 2 teams advanced from district.  You also had [b]1[/b] State Champion per classification.  Are schools not going to hang banners in the gym "4th place district 21-3a 2016"?  buy that patch for my lettermans jacket.

[OldBuc77]

You guys must be youngsters.....In the real "back in the day" only one team went to the playoffs in everything.....You didn't play your way into the playoffs---you won your way in...

[86hawk]

[quote name="oldbuc77" post="1379826" timestamp="1361916260"]
You guys must be youngsters.....In the real "back in the day" only one team went to the playoffs in everything.....You didn't play your way into the playoffs---you won your way in...
[/quote]
did you have lights or play during the day on the school yard?  the "good ol days".

[OldBuc77]

Yep... and indoor plumbing too ... lol

[Guest ECBucFan]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1379735" timestamp="1361908632"]
Come on man...That 4th place playoff spot was designed SPECIFICALLY for the PNG's, the Orangefield's, the Bridge City's, and the LCM's of the world...The UIL was sick of seeing the same "inner city" schools in the playoffs and Johnny Suburb had to only watch...
[/quote]

DV you need to realize FOOTBALL is #1 in Texas. Always has and always will be. If anything, the UIL watered it down so that "inner city" FOOTBALL teams would have a prayer, instead of watching the (ahem) Johnny Suburbs team win state championships after state championship, while the inner city folks could only helplessly sit and watch. Basketball is no more than an afterthought. LOL.  ;)     

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1379855" timestamp="1361919084"]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109819.msg1379735#msg1379735 date=1361908632]
Come on man...That 4th place playoff spot was designed SPECIFICALLY for the PNG's, the Orangefield's, the Bridge City's, and the LCM's of the world...The UIL was sick of seeing the same "inner city" schools in the playoffs and Johnny Suburb had to only watch...
[/quote]

DV you need to realize FOOTBALL is #1 in Texas. Always has and always will be. If anything, the UIL watered it down so that "inner city" FOOTBALL teams would have a prayer, instead of watching the (ahem) Johnny Suburbs team win state championships after state championship, while the inner city folks could only helplessly sit and watch. Basketball is no more than an afterthought. LOL.  ;)   
[/quote]not to mention football brings in the most money, THATS why they went to 4, basketball had absolutely nothing to do with it trust me.  ;)

[Bobcat1]

Even if they make it 4 teams the "inner city" schools are going to go to the playoffs still, what would that matter to them?

[Dick Vitale]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1379859" timestamp="1361919488"]
[quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=109819.msg1379855#msg1379855 date=1361919084]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109819.msg1379735#msg1379735 date=1361908632]
Come on man...That 4th place playoff spot was designed SPECIFICALLY for the PNG's, the Orangefield's, the Bridge City's, and the LCM's of the world...The UIL was sick of seeing the same "inner city" schools in the playoffs and Johnny Suburb had to only watch...
[/quote]

DV you need to realize FOOTBALL is #1 in Texas. Always has and always will be. If anything, the UIL watered it down so that "inner city" FOOTBALL teams would have a prayer, instead of watching the (ahem) Johnny Suburbs team win state championships after state championship, while the inner city folks could only helplessly sit and watch. Basketball is no more than an afterthought. LOL.  ;)   
[/quote]not to mention football brings in the most money, THATS why they went to 4, basketball had absolutely nothing to do with it trust me.  ;)
[/quote]
No they SPEND the most money!....Football USED to be king in Texas, but now its all about the roundball here!  ;D

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1380011" timestamp="1361927930"]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=109819.msg1379859#msg1379859 date=1361919488]
[quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=109819.msg1379855#msg1379855 date=1361919084]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109819.msg1379735#msg1379735 date=1361908632]
Come on man...That 4th place playoff spot was designed SPECIFICALLY for the PNG's, the Orangefield's, the Bridge City's, and the LCM's of the world...The UIL was sick of seeing the same "inner city" schools in the playoffs and Johnny Suburb had to only watch...
[/quote]

DV you need to realize FOOTBALL is #1 in Texas. Always has and always will be. If anything, the UIL watered it down so that "inner city" FOOTBALL teams would have a prayer, instead of watching the (ahem) Johnny Suburbs team win state championships after state championship, while the inner city folks could only helplessly sit and watch. Basketball is no more than an afterthought. LOL.  ;)   
[/quote]not to mention football brings in the most money, THATS why they went to 4, basketball had absolutely nothing to do with it trust me.  ;)
[/quote]
No they SPEND the most money!....Football USED to be king in Texas, but now its all about the roundball here!  ;D
[/quote] Joke of the night goes to you DV with that one LOL  ;D

[24 over par]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1379855" timestamp="1361919084"]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109819.msg1379735#msg1379735 date=1361908632]
Come on man...That 4th place playoff spot was designed SPECIFICALLY for the PNG's, the Orangefield's, the Bridge City's, and the LCM's of the world...The UIL was sick of seeing the same "inner city" schools in the playoffs and Johnny Suburb had to only watch...
[/quote]

DV you need to realize FOOTBALL is #1 in Texas. Always has and always will be. If anything, the UIL watered it down so that "inner city" FOOTBALL teams would have a prayer, instead of watching the (ahem) Johnny Suburbs team win state championships after state championship, while the inner city folks could only helplessly sit and watch. Basketball is no more than an afterthought. LOL.  ;)   
[/quote]amen

[drango]

Shocker dickie v trying to make this a racial issue when all these decisions are based on football. What an idiot!!!!

[Dick Vitale]

[quote name="smooth" post="1380283" timestamp="1361938903"]
Shocker dickie v trying to make this a racial issue when all these decisions are based on football. What an idiot!!!!

[/quote]
Your MOTHER is an idiot! NOTHING THAT I SAID HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH RACE! Really?  >:(