A future move in at Yates

[BLUEDOVE3]

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But I do find it interesting that they have "hometown" on the roster on their home page.
[/quote] Whats your point? I know some of the kid's dads and they  went to the old inner city schools in Houston. Whats your point?
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Dove- I would be willing to bet that you dont know more than five or 6 dads at most of the Yates players if you know that many.
[/quote]I'd be willing to bet you I've played against at least two of them (dads), and know 5-6 of the players  ;) Pops tried to get you to stay home but you wanted to live in the suburbs, away from your mixed family. Thats why you don't know any of these people  ;D

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[quote author=pallacanestro link=topic=109900.msg1382843#msg1382843 date=1362510192]
But I do find it interesting that they have "hometown" on the roster on their home page.
[/quote] Whats your point? I know some of the kid's dads and they  went to the old inner city schools in Houston. Whats your point?
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Dove- I would be willing to bet that you dont know more than five or 6 dads at most of the Yates players if you know that many.
[/quote]I'd be willing to bet you I've played against at least two of them (dads), and know 5-6 of the players  ;) Pops tried to get you to stay home but you wanted to live in the suburbs, away from your mixed family. Thats why you don't know any of these people  ;D
[/quote]

I know that the majority of the players are not from the Yates area.  And, regarding Pops, did you ever see the movie " The Jerk" starring Steve Martin?

[freeze 1914]

I thought HJ was made up of athletes that couldnt make it at West Brook and Central and Ozen to be honest. Surprised me that they have that many kids in the sour lake area

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[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1382861" timestamp="1362513169"]
I thought HJ was made up of athletes that couldnt make it at West Brook and Central and Ozen to be honest. Surprised me that they have that many kids in the sour lake area
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The vast majority of HJ players have grown up in the HJ district and played in the HJ Little Dribblers Program.  That's what troubles some people.  Considering the fact that this is a small and fairly rural community, they have been able to compete at a high level in basketball for many years.  Do they get a move in periodically?  Sure, every school does at one time or another.  However, they never have 40 transfer applicants in a single fall prior to school opening  and they never continually have 5 or 6 players at 6'5" to 6'8" who can play that "just happened to be in their district".  In fact, my guess is that the Yates district is one of a very few who amazingly produces this types of players year in and year out.  It doesnt take a brain surgeon to know what's going on.  If you dont want to call it recruiting, thats fine.  But most fully understand the situation.

[WILL I AM]

lol this is too funny hj upset because big bad yates took their candy lol

[WILL I AM]

Nash not stirring the pot or anything just wondering why did hj/twincounty litttle dribblers play games in the beaumont little dribbler league. If it was just to get more games in hats off to whom every thought of the idea. or was that not the case.

[BLUEDOVE3]

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[quote author=pallacanestro link=topic=109900.msg1382843#msg1382843 date=1362510192]
But I do find it interesting that they have "hometown" on the roster on their home page.
[/quote] Whats your point? I know some of the kid's dads and they  went to the old inner city schools in Houston. Whats your point?
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Dove- I would be willing to bet that you dont know more than five or 6 dads at most of the Yates players if you know that many.
[/quote]I'd be willing to bet you I've played against at least two of them (dads), and know 5-6 of the players  ;) Pops tried to get you to stay home but you wanted to live in the suburbs, away from your mixed family. Thats why you don't know any of these people  ;D
[/quote]

I know that the majority of the players are not from the Yates area.  And, regarding Pops, did you ever see the movie " The Jerk" starring Steve Martin?
[/quote]Yep! But you and Martin are totally on different spectrum.

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[quote name="DJANGO" post="1382873" timestamp="1362515291"]
Nash not stirring the pot or anything just wondering why did hj/twincounty litttle dribblers play games in the beaumont little dribbler league. If it was just to get more games in hats off to whom every thought of the idea. or was that not the case.
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NOt aware of any HJ little ddribblers playing in Beaumont unless it was senior because they didnt have enough to make a league.  EVery other division played a complete season along with a post season tourney and it finished last week. 

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But I do find it interesting that they have "hometown" on the roster on their home page.
[/quote] Whats your point? I know some of the kid's dads and they  went to the old inner city schools in Houston. Whats your point?
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I remember these days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7why8Xo_RQ

Dove- I would be willing to bet that you dont know more than five or 6 dads at most of the Yates players if you know that many.
[/quote]I'd be willing to bet you I've played against at least two of them (dads), and know 5-6 of the players  ;) Pops tried to get you to stay home but you wanted to live in the suburbs, away from your mixed family. Thats why you don't know any of these people  ;D
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I know that the majority of the players are not from the Yates area.  And, regarding Pops, did you ever see the movie " The Jerk" starring Steve Martin?
[/quote]Yep! But you and Martin are totally on different spectrum.
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[Guest Air Bisquit]

6 pages of complaining about Yates ::) ::) Some HJ fans would have a coronary, if they were ever to get moved into 21 3A (not going to happen) ;D ;D

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[quote name="Farmer Fran" post="1382919" timestamp="1362523087"]
6 pages of complaining about Yates ::) ::) Some HJ fans would have a coronary, if they were ever to get moved into 21 3A (not going to happen) ;D ;D
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Lets get things straight.  I am the only one complaining about Yates and I have been doing it for several years-long before HJ had to play them.  They dont belong in 3-a let alone 21-3a and even at the 4-a level, they have means of acquiring players that most of their competitors do not.  Its the truth and everybody knows it.

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[quote author=Farmer Fran link=topic=109900.msg1382919#msg1382919 date=1362523087]
6 pages of complaining about Yates ::) ::) Some HJ fans would have a coronary, if they were ever to get moved into 21 3A (not going to happen) ;D ;D
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Lets get things straight.  I am the only one complaining about Yates and I have been doing it for several years-long before HJ had to play them.  They dont belong in 3-a let alone 21-3a and even at the 4-a level, they have means of acquiring players that most of their competitors do not.  Its the truth and everybody knows it.
[/quote] Please, ::) there was plenty  HJ fans complaining about it after the loss to them, but they have moved on. You are the one who will not let it go. If the uil said they are playing within the rules quit complaining or go to the HJ school board and ask that they start a communications program and become a magnate school.
Then y'all can get all move ins ;)

[Honest Abe]

There IS a difference between complaining about something and simply stating FACTS as Nash is doing. It has become very clear that some people would rather speak their opinions as TRUTHS and simply ignore the FACTS. This conversation HAS been going on for more than just a few weeks. It has been debated on SETXsports for at least 3 years now, and I doubt it will die down any time soon.

After next year, Yates will no longer be 3A, but I know Nash will continue fighting the fight against Yates bc of how they 'acquire' their players. I agree that they should NOT be in 3A or 4A. If they want to 'come together' and play as if they are the best, then allow them to move up to 5A and play against the best. Maybe there should be a division where schools can recruit legally and play against each other......Oh wait, there IS a division for that, it's called COLLEGIATE SPORTS!!!

[BADSANTA]

Yates recruits from Africa and HJ recruits from Beaumont!

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Yates recruits from Africa and HJ recruits from Beaumont!
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[pallacanestro]

Jack Yates Lions Fall 2012/2013 Roster



No Name Pos Ht [color=red][b]Hometown[/b][/color] Yr

24 Anderson, Joseph "JoJo" G 6' 1" Houston 2015

15 Hayes, Brandon  F 6' 0"  2014

  Hill, Darius G 5' 8"  2016

21 Houston, Davion G 5' 10"  2014

25 Inowa, Sadiq F·C 6' 6"  2014

22 Jones, Artreal F 5' 10"  2015

11 Letcher, Marquez F 6' 6"  2015

1 Lewis, Damion "DJ" G 6' 0"  2014

23 Martin, Darrion SG 5' 11" Houston 2013

20 Mbanugo, Tobe C·C    2014

0 Ozz, Ikenna G·F 6' 0"  2013

3 Phillips, Lorenzo G 5' 7"  2016

12 Swift, Melvin F 6' 7"  2014

1 Tucker, Daquarius G 6' 0"  2015

5 Washington, JC F·C 6' 5"  2014

[pallacanestro]

I would venture to guess no other HS program has "hometown" listed on their roster.  You have to admit that is funny. 

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[quote name="pallacanestro" post="1383096" timestamp="1362581050"]
I would venture to guess no other HS program has "hometown" listed on their roster.  You have to admit that is funny.
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[AggiesAreWe]

Again, it's my understanding from a person in the know of Yates basketball that 6 of the 15 listed are what you consider "homegrown" players. The rest transferred in as freshmen or later.

Take that for what it's worth because I simply do not know how the elementary and middle school systems in HISD work as to what high school a student attends.

[Dick Vitale]

HISD has open enrollment. They USED to have zoning, but that ended several years ago. Whatever school that you initially enroll in as a 9th grader becomes your "home" school as far as athletics go. Students are NOT allowed to transfer within the district and play varsity sports, they must play sub varsity for one year unless there is proof that the students family has moved into that area, and that has to be verified before varsity eligibility is granted. It's a flawed system and kids transfer, but it's not a problem that is exclusive to Houston.

[BLUEDOVE3]

I remember a kid from Reagan transferred to Yates about a year ago. He had to play JV. I remember about two years ago a kid from the Cy Fair area transferred to Yates. He played JV. Both of these players were [color=red][size=14pt]DENIED [/size][/color] the chance to play for Yates' varsity their incoming year.

Now, will someone please tell us who has transferred to Yates and is not suppose to be playing varsity????? If you don't know,  you need to shut up!!!  8)

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="pallacanestro" post="1383096" timestamp="1362581050"]
I would venture to guess no other HS program has "hometown" listed on their roster.  You have to admit that is funny.
[/quote] why do they list their hometown?  ???

[pallacanestro]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1383120" timestamp="1362585045"]
HISD has open enrollment. They USED to have zoning, but that ended several years ago. Whatever school that you initially enroll in as a 9th grader becomes your "home" school as far as athletics go. Students are NOT allowed to transfer within the district and play varsity sports, they must play sub varsity for one year unless there is proof that the students family has moved into that area, and that has to be verified before varsity eligibility is granted. It's a flawed system and kids transfer, but it's not a problem that is exclusive to Houston.
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Completely agree with everything above.  That's why in my opinion UIL needs to step in and do something different.  When you add in charter, private, and magnet schools it really makes it difficult for the true public schools to compete.  Look at 1A right now with El Paso Harmony Science Academy playing Triple A Academy.  How can a true 1A rural school compete with that???

[Savant19]

Yates only lists 2 seniors....so the feeder middle schools have only produced 6 varsity players the last 4 years ? Did the rest of the guys quit basketball ? Were they magnet programmed to another campus for non athletic purposes ?
There are roughly 500 kids "zoned" to Yates that attend another school. Im just sure you Recruit Police have verified none of them play sports at the "non-zoned" school they attend.

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[quote name="Savant19" post="1383176" timestamp="1362597621"]
Yates only lists 2 seniors....so the feeder middle schools have only produced 6 varsity players the last 4 years ? Did the rest of the guys quit basketball ? Were they magnet programmed to another campus for non athletic purposes ?
There are roughly 500 kids "zoned" to Yates that attend another school. Im just sure you Recruit Police have verified none of them play sports at the "non-zoned" school they attend.
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