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Lose to #1 team in state and run the coach off. Carthage had nothng to do with any of it. You think you can coach better, go apply for the job. I promise you its not as easy as you think sitting in the stands.

Well...after a full week to look at all angles. I am going with strength of schedule between these two. PNG has played in a Gauntlet of a District and all 4 are still standing. I think there is a good chance all 4 are still standing after this week! Going with my Indians who are peaking at the right time on both sides of the ball! Indians on top and move on!! Good luck to Crosby, BH and Texas City

I respect your opinion but regardless of the excuses Vidors offense is designed to eat up clock and wear you down. At that point in the game their defense was worn out. Vidors summer conditioning program was designed to get them to that position in a game an take advantage of their fatigue. Instead we let them off the hook. Vidor will literally go 2 or 3 games without making one pass. IMO you stick to what got there. Everyone stay with their block an pound the rock. I’ve seen a Vidor game this year where 3 passes were made an 2 of them were intercepted. Sorry but 4 passes in row on your own 25 yard with 2:00 left on the clock makes no sense. You can’t lean on something you rarely do with the game on the line. An no I will not be applying for any coaches positions because I like weekends off during football season. Lol. Hoping for a Speedy recovery for Coach Matthews.

Carthage usually makes their opponent have their worst game of the season lol 🤣

Lol. How many turnovers would a backup have had? I promise you HF wouldn’t have scored. There have been a grand total of two teams score more than 14 points on Carthage this year, and one of them played in the 5A state championship game last season, and has a reasonable chance to get there again this year. You guys are killing me expecting HF to put up 35 or something and not turn the ball over against the best defense in the state. HF could’ve easily lost 3 district games. Y’all are acting like they’re WOS all of a sudden and should be competing in this one somehow.

Last time I talked to stattrax I told him what I thought about Dave Campbell picking us not to make the playoffs. He told me have you seen our team they are brutal, but yet here we are. It's anyone's game and Montgomery isn't a powerhouse. I don't judge how teams do against other teams. I don't care who scored what on who. If Crippen can eliminate the turnovers and throw dimes last week we have a shot. If Trahan has a huge game we got a shot. If we make some stops and create a turnover or two we got a shot. That's why we play the game. According to the Mecca aka Code red we don't have a shot. Let the doubters doubt and let the believers believe. I think we will have one hell of a ball game come Friday night.

HF has a pretty good year and then gets soundly beaten by a team that has lost 1 game in five seasons, and people are on here blaming the coaches and Heckaman. Come on, man. This team probably doesn’t make the playoffs without heckaman (4th seed at best). And they’ve had this good season running the same few plays over and over. There wasn’t anything that could’ve been done to change the outcome of this game. It was decided before it started. It might could’ve been a hair closer. That’s about it.

21-0 not 35-0 got it mixed up with woodville score.

Yea and outplayed also though

Good discussion/debate between Strattrax and Rockets. Good stuff. I love them all and I am thrilled they wore purple and white. Glad they are PN-G Indians. But...Richy Ethridge called and said, here, hold my beer, I want in this discussion. I'm the best of them all. Never lost to Nederland or Port Arthur Thomas Jefferson or Port Arthur Lincoln, and I have more playoff wins than several of the QBs combined. Before Richy grabbed his beer, he said, I played college ball and I need to get back to polishing my state championship trophy and ring. Go Indians. Peace.

From the evidence that I saw, Martin attacked Zimmerman. There was no evidence brought that Zimmerman attacked Martin. The 911 recording which I believe is still on YouTube, tells all you need to know without further evidence to the contrary. There was none. of course with speculation we could make up all kinds of scenarios but there was no evidence to back any up. A person does not have to think anything good about George Zimmerman to realize that the original district attorney in the case was correct, there was no evidence of murder beyond a reasonable doubt that overcame self-defense. It took the state and a special prosecutor to come in and announce an indictment without calling a grand jury. In fact Angela Corey made a public statement that she would not bring the case to a grand jury when the actual district attorney of that county had announced that he would bring the case to the graduate the next week. Corey had to quickly move to indict on her word only (allowed in FL) because she knew that the grand jury would likely return a No Bill. Is Zimmerman a good guy and a hero? Not in the least on either count. There is no evidence that Zimmerman harassed or even confronted Martin though. You are allowed that speculation but that is all it is.

This game is going to big, tickets are sold out online. Unless they are selling tickets at the gate, the best seat will be to watch on Texanlive.

as Dan Ray Hook took his mustangs to the playing field two hrs befor game time had them huddled around him he look and ask them what do you see,wow the look on there faces they ask what do you mean coach,his reply what do you see his reply(no tomorrow for you dreams will be broken) . come out on fire play mustang football for 4Qt play lights out chain gang defence true story

This thread needs to be archived. Game is over. Vidor lost over a week ago. Good luck in basketball

Also, clock management was atrocious. But that's one conversation y'all haven't had on this thread yet either. But let's blame injuries though...😂

Pirates we're able to move the ball all second half via the ground game. Burning 3 TO's and the last one with 3 minutes in the game when CH was punting on 4th down at THAT! Also throwing it 4 straight times deep in CH territory, that's something Mathews would have never done. But cmon man.. we could use the injury crutch all we want - but turds roll down hill, play calling was a bigger issue than injuries last Friday.

Silsbee fans are pretty notorious for that too.

The universal answer to all losses, regardless of sport or situation, it's the coaches fault. smh

Game day! Go get it PNG!

To me, the difference in this one was the couple of series right before the half. EC had just picked up a 1st and goal at the LRA 6 with under 2 minutes left in the half with the score tied 14-14. A run to the 4 out of the wildcat formation set up 2nd and goal. EC set up in wildcat again but tried to fool the Bee defense with a jump pass over the middle that was picked off in the endzone and returned to the 10. LRA had only 1 timeout left and 90 yards to get in endzone. They hit a 74 yard pass play that took them from their own 13 to the EC 13. 3 plays later they score and take a 21-14 lead into halftime. LRA got the ball to start the 3rd quarter and marched down and scored giving them a 28-14 lead that they never relinquished. This momentum swing was too much for EC to overcome.

HF played hard and had a great season. Their QB was a load to bring down. He even ran into Kip Lewis on one play and drove him backwards, That does not happen. Kip is one of the top linebackers in the state. The Dawg D held HF to 5 yards rushing and 120 yards passing. For those of you on here thinking HF coaches should of done anything different. This Dawg D is one of the best in 4A history. HF played their tails off and I congratulate them on a very good season.

That would be Mescal and I have eaten the worm. That was a long time ago and I was very, shall we say, Happy? lol I said I would try a Daiquiri.

Chireno 47 Evadale 38 Tuesday 11/16/21 Evadale won 2 games thursday at Nederland Ty def. Bridge City 50-25 def. PNG 54-28 Evadale is (3-1) Next vs LCM and Westbrook at Nederland Ty.

No one is saying run the coaches off, theyre great, we love them. Playing calling on 1st down was the same play the whole first half, which lead to long 3rd downs. Seems like when we played wos, silsbee and this game we went away from our bread and butter...hecks arm, i love seeing this kid throw. We needed to give that young man breather at the some point during the game, #1 was head hunting him the whole 4th. Its okay to put the backup in when the score is like that towards the end. Txst and utsa both sitting close said playing calling wasnt mixed good enough for this type of game. We had a great season. Good job HF parents, coaches, players and fans. Now on to round ball and the diamond boys.

There’s plenty talent in Woodville. There was just more talent on that Lorena team tonight. I agree about the personnel changes though

The play calling did suck. Just sayin'

offensively they may not seem as sharp as in years past. Defensively though they are fielding their best defense they have ever had. that said, they are the prohibitive favorite to go undefeated and win title # 9.

That was the final.......

Ok....sorry. Carthage is that good. Talent that never ends. When they're offense is "down" and they will most likely go 16-0, they are that good. That being said nothing I would love more on this last 10 years for an upset of that size. Make no mistake. If Carthage never goes back up and Surratt stays....it will be a stupid amount of championships for the record books.

Heckaman should’ve been pulled long ago. Making bad passes, a terrible lateral. Two fumbles lost. Out coached, Out played. Simple as that. Carthage does not look as good as they have been in the past. Good season Horns.

And you still think you have as good athletes as Lorena?

Just my opinion.i really do think w.o and Bellville would welcome the challenge.theyre gud.but not like ppl make them out to be.coaching is a huge difference with them against most 4a schools.

El Campo the worst tackling team I've seen all season.

Completely Out Coached So far

Glad to see you found reassurance in your investigation. I found my reassurance about a month or two after all this nonsense started.

It's obvious that the vaccine won't keep you from catching Covid, and it won't keep you from transmitting it, either. It's also obvious that you can catch it multiple times. About the only positive thing that I can come up with is that apparently vaccinated people require hospitalization or die at a rate that is almost 100x lower than people who have not be vaccinated. Does that mean that it can still rip through a nursing home and kill 8 vaccinated elderlies? Yes, it can... but across the board people who have been vaccinated are doing better.

We met some kids to sell a four wheeler at Walmart in Liberty. They were out of Houston. There were two of us and three of them. The guy who "knew about four wheelers" took if four a spin around the parking lot, then the guy who was actually buying it was gonna take it for a spin. He hopped on, then stopped and handed his pistola to one of his friends for safekeeping. We were laughing because I'm pretty sure that everybody was armed. It's also kinda funny how people don't realize what you're doing tactically. There's a reason that I'm off to the side... and it's not social distancing, lol.

Madisonville does use NFHS. But also, the Lorena broadcast uses it's own camera, so it can show replays, post-game interviews, etc.

KOGT will cover it. Gary Stelly is just as good as being there.

I think the timing is right locally with the disease being all but eliminated in our area. I guess the real question is whether or not there will be another surge. My hope is that the disease will continue to mutate and lose its punch, so to speak. This last round was a lot worse as far as transmissions, but the rate of fatalities was actually lower than the first round. I hope that trend continues, because I think it's safe to say that it's not going completely away in the near future. I'm also convinced that the vaccines(s) aren't nearly as good as we'd all hoped. Big pharma is making too much money, and too much of it is going back to politicians. I'm not surprised that they're now looking at a third shot... there were four spots on my vax card, not just two.

Just an update, according to the Port Arthur News, Noah was expected to return home in December but he is doing well enough to return home this coming Sunday or Monday. He is having surgery Friday to replace the piece of skull that was removed to relieve the swelling pressure after the injury. After that, it looks like he will be home for Thanksgiving.

Congrats to A. Morse 2021 2nd team All GAC QB. Great numbers put up this year. [Hidden Content] IMO I still have to agree with Stattrax & pngindiansfootball.com & go with D. Long as the best composure in the pocket, accuracy, poise, reading the defense, making the right decision, team leading, winning big games passing QB in Indian history. [Hidden Content]

Ticket Info: Playoffs 2021 - Round 2 Game Information Area Championship: PNG vs. Montgomery Date: Friday, November 19 Time: 7:30pm Location: Stallworth Stadium (see address below) ***PNG is the VISITING team. Stallworth Stadium 2102 E Archer Rd Baytown, TX 77521 Ticket Link: [Hidden Content] Tickets go on sale at 5:00pm today - 11/15. Scroll down to "Goose Creek Memorial" and look for "Playoff Football". Additional Ticket Information 1) All ticket sales are online; Tickets are not sold at the gate. 2) You can purchase tickets when you get to the game using your smartphone and scanning the QR code.

Here is their record. 9-2 They score a lot of points but give up a lot.I don't know what offense they run. Wins Fairfield 33-12 Crockett 47-21 Palestine 21-18 Bullard 58-22 Brownsboro 55-41 Madisonville 31-28 Shepherd 54-20 Center 48-45 Salado 49-42 Losses Jasper 7-0 Carthage 14-35

Out of likes but yes I agree. Coach would have made sure the kicking team was ready for the extra point tries and he would have had some input on what to do at the end of the game. Run the dang ball and we win that game in my opinion, plenty of time to punch it in. We have a hurry up run offense that has worked pretty well all season.

That offensive coordinator needs to turn his stuff in and just quit if I was a parent of a senior I would be livid I can promise you if Jeff was there that don't happen feel so bad for those boys. That makes me sick to my stomach

Heck of a year and they played until the end tonight and never quit. Coach going down before the game had to be on their mind but they played hard. Congratulations on a great season young men!

I truly believe thatn the HC being gone had a lot to do with all that.

Yes. I have seen enough comments from people reading the news articles and some claim this is all about race. Yesterday I watched an MSNBC Producer and commentator on the show, The Young Turks, admit that she thought Rittenhouse chased down the first guy and shot him. Now with a video from the trail, she has seen that it was Rittenhouse running for his life and the convicted sex offender chasing him down. Oop….. But I wonder where she got this bogus information to begin with? Gee, could it be from the news media is not reporting there facts? You have a white guy who is accused of shooting three white guys and he has charges brought by a white district attorney, defended by white lawyers in front of a white judge… And it’s all about race? There are so many claims that Rittenhouse illegally possessed the firearm (he was a couple of months too young) or he lived out of state or he could’ve been somewhere else and somehow any of that negates the right of self defense AND should cause murder charges to be brought. HUH? Actually there is some validity to race game. Let’s play my favorite game, what if. So let’s make this about race. What if a young black female in Wisconsin is walking in an area of town that is not so good. She is doing nothing wrong and is simply walking home. A convicted sex offender attacks her, trying to sexually assault and maybe kill her. The young woman pulls a handgun out of her purse and shoots and kills a guy. It is clearly a case of lawful self-defense. However… The young woman is 21 years old but did not get a concealed handgun license. In Wisconsin you can carry openly but can only conceal if you have a license. In other words, she could’ve had it in a holster on the outside of her purse or worn it in a holster attached are jeans or something similar and it would be legal. Unfortunately she stuck it inside her purse. That is a crime in Wisconsin and even though she is lawfully in her right of self-defense the DA charges her with murder not because in self-defense was unlawful but because she illegally possess a handgun. So now this woman who actually defended her life against a sexual predator, is facing life in prison. And… Like Rittenhouse, she was a part of town she shouldn’t have been in. Yes it was legal and she has a right to come and go but it was not the smartest thing in the world. For that reason, let’s charge her with Murder. Some of the same people who are complaining about Rittenhouse would almost certainly have a different opinion. Far from being put on trial for murder, she would be seen as a roll model of a young black woman standing up for herself. If the DA brought charges against her with the facts as I have described, there would be large protests outside of the court room and they might turn into riots. How many people doubt that would be true? People from the left would be claiming that maybe she does have some charges for concealing a handgun (or maybe not even then) but you can’t translate that into murder charges. You can’t say that she did not make a wise choice in where she walked so she deserves to go to prison for life….. yet that is exactly what some of the same people are saying about Kyle Rittenhouse. So maybe some peoples’ opinion it was about race. I feel like many of the people who are now happy that Kyle Rittenhouse is being charged with murder would have an exact opposite opinion if it was as my what if scenario. I also think that people who are defending Rittenhouse, would also defend this theoretical black female and not want her in prison for killing a violent sex offender and defending her own life.

I really struggle with how delusional the left has become in general. Don't get me wrong, there are some seriously delusional people on the right as well, but the ratio is skewed incredibly far to the left. All of the evidence, and there is a LOT of it, (including clear video of all shootings) points towards self-defense. Nearly all of the prosecution's witnesses are proving the case of self-defense. The prosecution is not following the law and disobeying judge's orders in an attempt to illegally sway the jury (or to put the weight of dismissal on the judge to avoid losing when the jury returns). And somehow, through all of this, the left has come not to the conclusion that Rittenhouse was defending himself, but that the judge is a biased, neo-nazi, unfair cheater? Some of the news articles and social media comments I've been reading are mind blowing.