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Hardin doesn't have good teams very often. When they do have decent groups they seem to be at the mercy of where UIL places that cutoff number.

1. Beaumont West Brook 2.Porter 3. Barbers Hill 4. Baytown Lee 5. Crosby 6. Vidor 7. Deer Park 8. Kingwood Park 9. New Caney 10. Huntsville 11. Center 12. Jasper 13. Shepherd 14. Hardin-Jefferson 15. Silsbee 16. Trinity 17. Diboll 18. Franklin 19. Buna 20. Orangefield 21. Beaumont Kelly 22. San Augustine 23. Evadale 24. Cisco Rey Jesuit 25. Liberty

They will fight hard.. but Hardin's winning streak ends this week. EC wins this one by..maybe a bunch.

Buna 30-14 final

I had Vidor picked.. edited the post and changed it. Smh..

In all seriousness.. probably buying sushi at HEB would be better than most in my opinion. Unless you're a fan of the usual fast food Chinese food court type experience. Egg rolls, breaded chicken/shrimp in various different sauces and spices, fried rice... all of that seems cookie cutter to me as far as Chinese food. Other than that I'm thinking just find a Hibachi grill.

1. Crosby 2. Woodville 3. Grapeland 4. Beaumont United 5. Beaumont West Brook 6. Port Arthur Memorial 7. Barbers Hill 8. Port Neches-Groves 9. Nederland 10. Orangefield 11. Anahuac 12. Hardin 13. West Orange-Stark 14. Hamshire-Fannett 15. Liberty 16. Hardin-Jefferson 17. Silsbee 18. Newton 19. Hemphill 20. Kountze 21. West Sabine 22. Chester 23. Gilmer Union Hill 24. CC 25. Veritas

I stand corrected. It was the previous year that the district went 0-4. Last year none of the distrct won a 2nd round game. Maybe that's what I was thinking of. Still kind of the same point.. 2016 none made it to 2nd round and 2017 none made it past 2nd round. I don't know about you but I judge the stregnth of a district based on how it does against other districts. So I guess technically in 2016 Hardin was in maybe the weakest district in the state..maybe. Last year they were in the 2nd weakest district but the weakest district was the district they are in now... plus or minus a team or so. Yes I know that a lot changes from year to year..

He didn’t call a team toothless, no fight, no talent dogs. Toothless dog fight is COMPAREing a game to a fight between 2 dogs with nothing to fight with.

Being 3-0 doesn’t mean you’re not bad. I’ll guarantee you that it could’ve just as easily been 0-3 with a difference of preseason scheduling. Coach Haynes did a good job putting together a schedule conducive to winning. I’m also pretty sure that Hardin was in a district last year that didn’t win a single playoff game. I need to double check but I think I’m remembering that correctly. So that’s not a good argument for you to make.

First of all.. I wasn't talking/referring to/about you. I was talking about the guy that accused another guy of "trolling 16-18 year old kids" for simply referring to this game as a toothless dog fight. However, if you must know, you're wrong. Being 3-0 doesn't make you a good team. As of right now you guys haven't beaten a single team that has won a game. Not one. That may not change after this week. It does matter how good/bad the competition is. Fact is..Hardin MIGHT finish 4th or 5th in a district that never gets past round 3. I'm sorry to say but that doesn't equal good team. I have no doubt that the kids play hard and that they are suprising some people. But the suprise went from "they'll finish 2nd to last" to "they will likely get 5th..maybe even 4th". Don't take it personal. They're exceeding the pre-season expectations but still not considered a good team.

It is possible to say that a team is bad but not be pointing out or talking about any individual players. This PC crap is infecting everything.

Sure there are many characteristics along those lines that play into the willingness to be great. Another is dedication..work ethic. Those kinds of things seem nonexistent. Have you ever read 'Culture Defeats Stragety' by Randy Jackson? It's pretty good.

I like this thread too much not to chime in: Great program?: Genetics/athletes for starters, transfers (winning and facilities will draw people), consistent coaching (not a new AD every time you have a bad year), community support (is vital), favorable size/classification (that's a big deal in football), steady homelives (it's hard to win with kids that are in constant survival mode), and sometimes having a good game when another team (better team) doesn't. Make no mistake..every single school in the state is aspiring to win as many games as possible and every coach in the state has a goal of winning it all. Not everyone gets to. Most don't, in fact. There are definitely some qualities that consistent powerhouses possess and I listed some of them but not all. Sometimes you don't need every single thing listed to have success. Sometimes it takes what was listed and more. I was pleasently surprised by some of the comments on this thread by the way. Maybe people are starting to realize some things..

So do I. Don't get me wrong.. I appreciate a good spread game as much as the next man but misdirection and/or pound it will always be my favorite. I also understand displaying and using athleticism when you have it..but I'm a fan of clock control. Call me old fashioned I guess

Yeah there are a bunch. There are still many teams winning state titles running the slot T or variations of it. It really is a great offense.

There are more than just those. Slot T is very difficult to stop when done correctly. When you combine either a really good defense or an offense that could also score quickly if need be...you almost can't beat it.

Jasper

Worst start to a season I've had doing this. Trash.. smh

I literally copy and pasted a definition off of google to show that technically...what was brought up by someone else...was technically accurate. Every week there are 25 games posted in the pickems. That's 25 winners and 25 losers. See..does that statement mean that I just called 25 teams a bunch of losers? I didn't call anyone a loser and this is stupid that this conversation is happening.

I see you picked and chosen two different statements and didn't put the info in between. That's fine. By the way the only reason I put the definition of the word loser was to show what it technically means. You're the one that brought it up. If you must know...yes in every single contest there is a winner and there is a loser. That doesn't mean that the word defines them. That's one of the things sports can teach us if done correctly. SP wasn't doing it correctly. Nice try though. I'm glad you're through with it because you did a poor job of making feel any differently or have any remorse for what I typed whatsoever. Don't take it personal, though.. There are several schools I feel the same way about. We just happened to be talking about Sabine Pass at the moment.

I didn't say the kids in the athletic department don't work...I said they DON'T HAVE TO. I also didn't say you could walk in and be valedictorian or salutatorian.. I said there isn't as much competition to do so. Are you implying that being valedictorian at Sabine Pass is more difficult to do than being valedictorian at a school with 4 or 5 times the enrollment? or more There's not one single thing that I typed that is "ripping or dissing" kids from anywhere. I invite you to go reread anything I typed and see for yourself. Perhaps you're getting so defensive because you realize that there's some truth in what I'm saying.

I'm not sure how this went so far out into left field...or why you're seeming so butt hurt... but I didn't call anyone a loser and certainly am not hating on kids. Maybe you should go back and reread all of my posts so you can understand what I'm talking about. Or maybe not...who knows. I've said this whole season that they need to fold football for various reason.. like to prevent injury for starters. It has nothing to do with David vs Goliath. I wouldn't want a 3A football team to play a 6A football team for the same reason...or a JH team play a HS team. After that I offered my opinion on how small schools lack providing competition...which is true...and which is important to learn in life. (above example) I also think it's funny that you're under the impression that I may be...reliving some type of glory days scenario?.. That's too stupid for a response because I can assure you that you don't know anything about me and are obviously so far off that I'm literally laughing about it.

los·er ˈlo͞ozər/ noun a person or thing that loses or has lost something, especially a game or contest.