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1. Beaumont West Brook 2. New Caney 3. Port Arthur Memorial 4. Nederland 5. Crosby 6. Port Neches-Groves 7. Barbers Hill 8. Huffman Hargrave 9. Lumberton 10. Little Cypress-Mauriceville 11. Jasper 12. Silsbee 13. Liberty 14. East Chambers 15. Orangefield 16. Buna 17. Woodville 18. Corrigan-Camden 19. Newton 20. Hull-Daisetta 21. Shelbyville 22. Lovelady 23. West Hardin 24. Katy St. John XXIII 25. Beaumont Legacy Christian

I would think that putting a stop to 70% of the offense is the best bet.

I know you weren't. Like I said.. I know that Haynes knows his stuff when he has a kid that can throw and a couple that can catch. You could almost argue that that seems to be his preferred offence. However.. it certainly seems that Hardin's bread and butter is the running back. If that's the case then loading the box might be the best option.

Don't fret. 18 year olds are better than 14/15 year olds.. that's how it's supposed to be. If KV is playing a lot of young ones then they'll be fine. Varsity experience never hurts.

Not meaning to seem argumentative.. but why do you say that? I know that LH is known for throwing it around but isn't Hardin's RB raking in a good portion of the offence?

History matters...zero...when talking about 2 teams that are playing this year. Unless you're talking about last year or year before when talking about history it doesn't really matter. Burkeville won a state championship in 2001. See.. history means nothing. That said.. I think OF wins this one by double digits.

EC big.

This district is unusually weak this year.

Livingston won’t win a game this year. Lumberton should roll.

If you’ve read my posts on this site you’d know that I don’t discriminate against any school. And hate to break it to you.. but there isn’t a single thing in this or any other post I’ve made that is “attacking” anyone. I’m realistic and I’m not a fan of delusional posts. I also defend coaches probably more than anyone on this site. Someone implied Hardin was good by saying they could kill someone? I’m just bringing up the fact that Hardin has only beat bad teams. If you say they’re good based on their record and I can also say that they can only beat bad teams (because of record).

Before you start letting your cockiness run away with itself.. think about this. Hardin as won 5 games this year. 4 of those 5 schools are 0-6. The other is 1-5. I’m glad for y’all’s kids that they’re having some success but I wouldn’t be throwing statements that they’d kill..anyone. Every team they’ve beaten is garbage. Maybe Hardin would beat HD. We won’t know but we know this for a fact. Hardin has only played 1 team that has at least 2 wins and they were destroyed.

You're right.. And I'll give you another one since we're looking for exceptions. Refugio is another. Calallen and Refugio are two schools in the region 4/San Antonio or south of..areas that have beaten a school from a different region in the last decade or more. About 20 or so state semifinal or final games per year and you found a couple that disprove what I said. Good job. I'm still sticking to my point that region 4 teams (except Austin WL and LT) are irrelevant when it comes to football. You can speculate as to why that is however you feel like.

Baytown Sterling Beaumont West Brook Galena Park North Shore Beaumont United Port Arthur Memorial Nederland PNG Vidor Lumberton LCM Splendora Center Hamshire-Fannet Silsbee Diboll Anahuac Woodville Kirbyville East Chambers Shelbyville Hull Daisetta West Hardin Evadale The Woodlands Legacy Prep Corrigan-Camden

Of course I know of Calallen and Phil Danaher. I've met him.. I don't need to check the history. His vast success still doesn't disprove the point that I've been making. Calallen and Phil Danaher has beaten a football team outside of Region 4 in the state playoffs twice in his entire coaching career.

I didn't say they were an issue. I'm saying that statistically it isn't always the ideal situation for a football team because football relies on numbers. Having a large group of kids that don't play football...will not help the situation of a football program.

I have a good friend that coached there up until last year. He told me this would happen exactly how it's happening. The dropping enrollment coupled with the demographic shift has caused the number in athletics to fall considerably. Not to sound ugly.. but a lot of those kids don't play football around here (SeTx).

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All good. I swear I don't know when I'm being messed with or when I should be defensive these days.. Not that I was intentionally being defensive. I think I'm losing my mind.

How is it that I'm always accused of being a hater? lol.. To be honest I don't care if Buna throws it every down. I'm just saying don't be surprised when WV has control of the ball for 90% of the game when it happens. I like the passing game just as much as the next guy..when it can be done. But if it can't be done I would hope that it's recognized early enough to keep it from being as bad as it could be. Don't forget that Buna didn't exactly burn the scoreboard down last week with this backup QB that is a supposed throwing threat.

With the exception of 6A.. I'll have to say no. It only happens in 6A because of the Austin schools being in region 4 in 6A (Westlake/Lake Travis). The other classifications region 4 is pretty much San Antonio and south. I thought we were talking about schools with high Hispanic populations..? Alright so let me restate. When I say region 4 I'm talking about the typical region 4 (south Tx) school. I don't think Austin Westlake and Austin Lake Travis fit the mold of what we're talking about here.

I'm not using titles as relevance. I'm showing that ANY team out of region 4 still can't compete with the rest of the state these days. The original point was that LP has fallen by the way side because of dropping enrollment and a demographic swing. Someone said.."well Judson has a lot of Hispanics".. Well.. All of South Tx does. SOMEONE has to be the best team in region 4. Still can't beat the other regions.

To be fair.. I think it's safe to say that a large number of region 4 schools have huge Hispanic enrollments. This isn't exactly the same.. With the exception of a small handful of schools region 4 isn't really relevant in UIL athletics these days. Even that handful of schools does not win titles lately. Including Judson. Not an accurate comparison.

I'm thinking EC wins by at least 2/3 scores.

I was hoping but you never know.

LP graduated a ton of talent...and their student population has had a major demographic shift toward .... non football type students. I'm seeing hard times ahead for LP football.