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Oh yeah, if you are talking about an off duty officer in Orange (not to re-litigate that case), I read the something like 20+ witness statements and a majority (all but a couple) say that it was more than words. Also, as the topic of this thread about complying, the officer in Orange was cleared most likely due to those witness statements. Just like the false claims (completely bogus) of Michael Brown and “hands up, don’t shoot”… complying in 99.999% (probably more) of cases will keep a person alive.

Which goes to the OP. Do what you are told. In this video the officer was polite and professional for quite a while. The guy should have simply complied. He refused and then resisted arrest. The Facebook, YouTube, Google lawyers get people killed. That is why I posted Supreme Court cases. When the Supreme Court looks at a man having a diabetic crisis and the cops kind of kick the crap out of him (and I think broke his foot) and unanimously say… oh well, he should have complied!….. people should heed that warning.

On the use of force, according to SCOTUS it doesn’t matter what the totality of circumstances are when determining if an officer was justified in any use of force situation. In other words it doesn’t matter what actually happened but it matters what a reasonable officer would believe at that moment. It is the term “objective reasonableness”. An officer has to make a split second decision and what a situation reasonably appeared to be matters. If it later turned out to be incorrect, the officer will still likely be cleared. In the main case (Graham)the police kind of roughed up a guy who turned out to be completely innocent and in fact was having a medical crisis. The SCOTUS ruled 9-0 that what was later (like a few moments later) discovered didn’t matter, only what a reasonable officer would believe.

I guess that for most people this will not be an issue, but… SCOTUS has ruled that it doesn’t violate the Fourth Amendment guarantee against unreasonable searches and seizures for a police officer to order the driver from a vehicle with no cause whatsoever. That is for the driver who is likely being detained for a crime, usually minor crime like a traffic citation. The passenger though probably has not been detained for a crime and is sort of a victim of circumstances due to being in a vehicle where the driver was stopped. In such a case SCOTUS has ruled that the passenger(s) can be ordered from the vehicle with no justification required. That’s right folks. The SCOTUS has said that anyone in the vehicle can be ordered from the vehicle with no jurisdiction required and it not violate the Fourth Amendment. A state can be more restricted and give additional rights but I can not seen any Texas Court of Criminal Appeals case that restricts an officer from ordering any person from a vehicle.

The ignorance of the crap put out on the internet….. Some more of the sovereign man nonsense. There is a claim of multiple court ruling that say a driver’s license is not needed unless driving a commercial vehicle, the police can’t force me out of my car and blah blah….. Youtube and Facebook lawyers….

I know that covid is real. I believe it was from a lab in China. Intentionally released? I don’t know. I used to think that the vaccine had issues (and still do) but it was pushed by many people (not the creators like Pfizer) as a necessity for a very problematic disease. Now I think it’s nothing but a continuing money scheme. I have heard a few radio commercials going back to late January. They have said, if you have not had a booster since September, you aren’t covered and need the update. Okay, so now (going back to January) if you haven’t had a booster in the last 4-5 months….. you really need to come on it!!! What next, every 12 weeks? So maybe Fauci had his grubby hands in it from the beginning, maybe it was a complete accident or whatever. However it started, it has become a created windfall for a lot of people to become rich and they are pushing the vaccines like cigarette commercials before they were made illegal. I also think that many in the health community are unwitting and unwilling pawns in the scheme. The covid vaccine du jour has become a huge industry.

Sure, just as soon as anyone produces any evidence. I wish they would at least turn the names over to a federal law enforcement agency that could be trusted but I am not sure that exists at the moment. Prosecute every single person no matter who it is. But for now….. Just as soon as anyone produces any evidence.

It is with humor that you are going against the mantra of the left and invoking capitalism.

In another sports/hunting forum, each year a guy posts the day by day events in Texas history at this time of the year. Tomorrow morning, March 4…. Will be day 11.

I bowled 3 leagues a week one time… 2 At the same time. A guy had dropped out of a team in another league and I was already bowling league at the same time. I bowled six games running back-and-forth between lanes.

When I saw her talking about reducing the homicide rate….. Liberal math. Start at 500 a year, increase each year and by the third year it reaches 800. Then it goes down to 700 in the fourth year and you claim the 40% increase in murders from when you took office is actually a “reduction”. It is the same math of gasoline going from $2 a gallon, to $4.50 and when it comes back down to $3, claim to have reduced gasoline prices. Us simple minded people think from $2 to $3 is a 50% increase. Little did we know that from $2 to $4.50 to $3 is a33% reduction.

And there are some great hotdogs out there. You just have to get away from Bar S and Oscar Mayer.

Nothing left but the squeal…..

I don’t watch Fox News and I haven’t made any comments about stolen elections. What is sad if that you think it matters. I notice that you didn’t address what I said. Do you think that people really vote by what a media executive thinks or says? I realize that people in forums try to light a fire just to see if someone will respond by throwing gasoline on the flames but you are delusional if you think someone is going to change who he/she supports because of a media owner. Like, “Gee, I was completely against gun control but if a guy named Rupert Murdoch lied, I am turning all of my guns in!”. Yeah….. people are going to change their beliefs because of a guy they probably never even heard of made a comment.

What is it that Murdoch supposedly admitted to lying about? What does any of it have to do with political stances? Are people who are for closing the border, less welfare, ending most gun possession laws, not raising taxes, etc., going to feel or vote differently because of Murdoch?

When she won in 2019 one of the candidates against her was a White male and former Obama Chief of Staff and also a US Commerce Secretary under Bill Clinton, Bill Daley. Those are pretty lofty credentials yet Lightfoot made it to the runoff while eliminating Daley. The citizens of Chicago weren’t racists and sexists then. The moment she lost, those same people who voted for her 4 years ago were suddenly transformed into prejudiced people. It is the ever built in excuse. If I didn’t succeed, it is because….

Unless?

So the same message since 1963….

Wait… that was 3 in 1 oil.

The company like in Beaumont? … or the oil my grandfather always had on hand?

No telling how it will play out but can a president cancel a signed contract?

No one in this conversation has remotely made such a claim. You know that you didn’t read that. Personally, it depends on the person. Generally speaking, obviously the answer is no. A kiss was not the accusation however. It was absolutely equating a kiss with sexual assault which is the legal terminology for rap-e. I guess if a guy shoves another with no injuries, it should be investigated as a murder? “You touched me so I am filing charges for Murder!”. An offense contact is a crime. It is typically the lowest level of a misdemeanor or the equivalent of a traffic citation. It usually has a 1-3 years as a statute of limitations. In Texas an unwanted kiss carries up to a $500 fine and a person has two years to file the charges. Great, accuse Kavanaugh of that allegation, which the time to file charges passed four decades ago. That would not gain much attention so they upped the allegation even though Ford made no allegation of having sex. It was….. he wanted to. I saw an article a couple of days ago about this recent claim and it is still being reported as an accused sexual assault. Here is an article from National Public Radio and a quote from early in the article. Notice that it claims an allegation of sexual assault. New York Times reporters Robin Pogrebin and Kate Kelly, who wrote the essay, covered Kavanaugh's contentious 2018 confirmation hearings, in which Christine Blasey Ford alleged that he had sexually assaulted her at a house party when they were both teenagers. [Hidden Content] So you’re okay with grabbing a girl, kissing her and pulling on her dress but she runs away and having that accused as sexual assault? There was no accusation even by Ford of them having sex yet he was accused in the media and US Senate of just that. Here is a USAToday article and the opening paragraph. It shows the Kavanaugh confirmation postponement for a week so the FBI could investigate “a sexual assault”. WASHINGTON – Senate Republicans were forced Friday to delay Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation so the FBI can investigate allegations of sexual assault from more than 30 years ago. [Hidden Content]

A late middle aged couple are in bed one night. Most of the romance has gone out of their lives. But….. as the woman has her back to her husband about to go to sleep, he ever so lightly starts running his hands over her shoulders. Then he runs his hand along her side and then over her stomach. As she is starting to feel feisty for the first time in a long time, he slides down between her legs. Then it stopped. She turned over and asked, “Why did you stop!?” He said, “I found the remote”. 🤔

How dare you think about sex!!

Ignorance is a statement that you didn’t bring up race when it is glaringly obvious that it was the entire intent of your comment. When called on it, your follow to it isn’t about race is, it was about a Black slave.